Should employers opt to random drug testing of employees?

i smoke weed daily, but i have a work from home gig. but any job where somebody life could be on the line i completely understand it. even though it may not seem fair. like being denied workmans comp cuz you pissed dirty. but what if the injury wasnt your fault or somebody else being inept. but it is what it is.
 
Completely random, no i dont like that shit. If an employee is doing well, on time, productive, just let them be. I understand an initial drug test and drug testing if a major accident or injury happens, but completely random imo is kind of fucked up.

I think its fucked up primarily because of weed. Weed is the least harmful of all substances but it stays in your system the longest. Alcohol is a far more problematic substance and they arent doing random breathalyzers.

When i was welding, i was helping build whole ass buildings, balconies, giant steel things and i was completely blown away by how many of the people in that industry are barely functioning alcoholics. Guys would come into the job still reeking of alcohol. Either hungover or still drunk or might have taken some shots in their car before coming in. definitely having beers at lunch too. Thankfully nothing got too fucked up when i was working with all of them, but i would much prefer a crew of stoners making a building than some angry alcoholics. An argument can be made for both sides to overlook things or try to cut corners, but I'd trust the stoners to double check their shit before the alcoholics.

If a person is a dope fiend, coke head, meth head etc. then its only a matter of time before they get too bad. same with an alcoholic.

If there is a way to test for weed and see if the person was high at the time of the incident, thatd be understandable. But to get fired because you made a mistake and you smoked weed after work everyday is absolutely fucked.
 
Im not against this logic tho. I'd fully be behind putting one of those blow air to start apparatus in any vehicles or heavy machinery you needed to operate while on the job.
I think you’re conflating general random drug testing to on the spot drug testing for a reason. Random drug testing with no suspicion of wrong doing isn’t done for alcohol so why weed is my contention.
 
I think you’re conflating general random drug testing to on the spot drug testing for a reason. Random drug testing with no suspicion of wrong doing isn’t done for alcohol so why weed is my contention.

Im not conflating. You brought up alcohol. I just suggested using a breathalyzer since it would be the most accurate test offered for a random alcohol test in particular. If there was a standardized breathalyzer for weed id be okay with that. 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
Im not conflating. You brought up alcohol. I just suggested using a breathalyzer since it would be the most accurate test offered for a random alcohol test in particular. If there was a standardized breathalyzer for weed id be okay with that. 🤷🏿‍♂️
What I meant is the discussion was more so around randomized drug tests for cause or not. Maybe I misinterpreted your post to think you were ok with randomized weed tests even if it wasn’t for cause.

If you were for that, then it would be fair to do randomized alcohol tests for cause or not using that logic.
 
What I meant is the discussion was more so around randomized drug tests for cause or not. Maybe I misinterpreted your post to think you were ok with randomized weed tests even if it wasn’t for cause.

If you were for that, then it would be fair to do randomized alcohol tests for cause or not using that logic.
Im telling you im okay with both things. Especially if you're working a job driving a vehicle, operating heavy machinery or in emergency services.

You're proposing it like it's a gotcha. It isn't to me. Im good with it in specific cases.
 
There isn't even a test to tell if someone is intoxicated on alcohol. Tests can only measure your blood alcohol level. There's a legal limit, which is .08, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're intoxicated. Depending on the person, you can blow a .08 and not be intoxicated or impaired at all.

Good point.
 
I loved seeing niggas sweat bullets over a random drug test at work meanwhile I’m like *shrugs* lol

I applied to Meijer way back inna day. Didn't think shit of it and was smoking left and right; then they called me for an interview. One of my boys was like "If they want you to start, they're gonna have you take a piss test and you got an hour to go to the spot for it". Interview was like a week out, I was panicking like crazy 'cause ya boy was broke as shit and needed the job. My ass drank gallons of water and Lipton tea for that whole fuckin' week. Went to the interview and, sure as shit, they hired me and gave me the paperwork to go get piss tested. I had an hour to go drop.

I passed that shit too, but I was sweating like crazy while waiting.
 
I applied to Meijer way back inna day. Didn't think shit of it and was smoking left and right; then they called me for an interview. One of my boys was like "If they want you to start, they're gonna have you take a piss test and you got an hour to go to the spot for it". Interview was like a week out, I was panicking like crazy 'cause ya boy was broke as shit and needed the job. My ass drank gallons of water and Lipton tea for that whole fuckin' week. Went to the interview and, sure as shit, they hired me and gave me the paperwork to go get piss tested. I had an hour to go drop.

I passed that shit too, but I was sweating like crazy while waiting.
When I worked at GNC Tristan Thompson and another one of his Cavs teammates came to get the shit to clear out your system for an incoming drug test

He asked for like 10 of them shits lol
 
When I worked at GNC Tristan Thompson and another one of his Cavs teammates came to get the shit to clear out your system for an incoming drug test

He asked for like 10 of them shits lol

Back inna day it was Golden Seal. That shit had niggas with bloodshot eyes and permanent weed breath passing piss tests.
 
Folks that smoke frequently got to work after they rolled up and even got smoke on their breaks

I’m always like you gotta smoke that bad? Addict

Dude be on their last dollar and would go buy some and turn around and ask for 10 so they can get something to eat.
 
Back inna day it was Golden Seal. That shit had niggas with bloodshot eyes and permanent weed breath passing piss tests.
I was mad we didn’t have them in stock because that sale would’ve helped my numbers

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As a daily drinker and smoker...I would have no problems with my job breathalyzing me for either when I show for work every day.


As long as it was accurate enough to detect I haven't done either in the past 8 hours.

Which is way more than enough time.... In my personal opinion....

I'm always done by 11-12 and could absolutely be done by 8 if I knew my job was doing daily checks...

Like I'm all for niggas not being drunk or high at work..... But when home... We should be able to do us, and know how to stop in a timely enough fashion to make it to work tomorrow.

So just like these sassy ass niggas that's bragging this is shit they don't have to worry about .. I'm saying as a daily drinker smoker I would 100% display the discipline to show up to work daily even if it was a 12 hour window.

People should be given the chance to show their habits don't influence their productivity.

Like I totally get it if you show up to work drunk and high. But if I'm sober as fuck.... Don't treat me like them.
 
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit, we got beer in the fridge at my job.

I haven't had one yet 'cause I'm new and I ain't tryin' to be "that guy".
Shit, I am fully confident I will smoke every person at my job under the table outside of work, but I easily passed on shorty passing out edibles at a chicks going away party
 
Im telling you im okay with both things. Especially if you're working a job driving a vehicle, operating heavy machinery or in emergency services.

You're proposing it like it's a gotcha. It isn't to me. Im good with it in specific cases.
So basically you’re cool with testing for weed and alcohol even in cases where the consumption might have been after work or over the weekend and they never show up to the job high or drunk?

Not trying to play gotcha, just genuinely curious cause I don’t get that logic.
 
So basically you’re cool with testing for weed and alcohol even in cases where the consumption might have been after work or over the weekend and they never show up to the job high or drunk?

Not trying to play gotcha, just genuinely curious cause I don’t get that logic.
Some people are functioning drug addicts and alcoholics so yes if you're in emergency services, driving vehicles, operating heavy equipment, and other jobs that can put people in danger im not thinking of atm, im not against random testing, you should be held to a higher standard.
 
its mainly bums that cant go to work sober. impaired in any state is dangerous . i wouldnt run my business any other way. side jobs included
 
Some people are functioning drug addicts and alcoholics so yes if you're in emergency services, driving vehicles, operating heavy equipment, and other jobs that can put people in danger im not thinking of atm, im not against random testing, you should be held to a higher standard.
Fair. I think it unjustly penalizes those that aren’t in that group, but I’m not mad at it.
 
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