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Is Kamala Harris The Best Candidate For Black People?

Knock_Twice said:
Didn't I tell you that those other demographics wasn't going to vote for this woman, she wasn't going to get their support anyway, black folks voted for the couch, many voted for Trump or other candidates.

You truly believe this woman was going to win

Now that the slate is clean, how bout black folks start looking towards other options, Jill Stein had a better policy plan than Kamala. Folks need to get off that Dems plantation like the poster Dis stated.
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Jill Stein didnt have a better policy at all. Thats a pipe dream you keep allowing yourself to be sold on. The needle didn't move regarding her support with Black people. It was the same as it's always been. The problem Dems had was people of all demographics sitting out based on the voting numbers. Trump didn't get more votes. Kamala and Dems got less
 
Knock_Twice said:
I told you that black folks wasn't fucking with her from the jump, she offered nothing to black folks, I believe the black votes that she did get were from folks just voting because they didn't want Trump in, not because she was their choice.
That's the only reason why the % looks like that.

I told you dudes in here that Trump would get the Latino vote, that's a surprise to you all. I never at any time thought Kamala would receive their votes.

Yall fussed with me about that issue, it's all good.

Do you think Kamala gained black voters or did she lose black voters? I think many black voters didn't vote, voted for Trump and other candidates.

I think this trend will continue until folks come with a bag of shit black folks want.
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I just don’t see how you think the message they received was to come with a bag of shit black folks want. Even if they lose more support from black people, the calculus says to cater more to the growing Latino voting block, not black people. Or cater more to white men. Nothing in this says give more to black people.

At the end of the day, at least we had a shot with Kamala. She was willing to show up where we were, whether you thought it was pandering or not.

So at the end of the day, we lose because Republicans not going to suddenly start coming with a bag for black people.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Didn't I tell you that those other demographics wasn't going to vote for this woman, she wasn't going to get their support anyway, black folks voted for the couch, many voted for Trump or other candidates.

You truly believe this woman was going to win

Now that the slate is clean, how bout black folks start looking towards other options, Jill Stein had a better policy plan than Kamala. Folks need to get off that Dems plantation like the poster Dis stated.
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We are not a big enough voting block to swing a 3rd party candidate into power. Jill Stein already getting a minuscule portion of the vote and even if all black people voted for her she’d still lose.

The point is to win, not to just send messages incessantly.

So if Democrats start to turn their back on black people, what is the strategy to get that bag for black people?
 
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BlackRain said:
Jill Stein didnt have a better policy at all. Thats a pipe dream you keep allowing yourself to be sold on. The needle didn't move regarding her support with Black people. It was the same as it's always been. The problem Dems had was people of all demographics sitting out based on the voting numbers. Trump didn't get more votes. Kamala and Dems got less
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Do they poll "all" black folks or the "black folks who voted" to get her %?

If there 10 million black registered voters and but only 5 million voted.

3 million black folks voted for her out of that 5 million that voted, which would give her that 80- 90% that you wanna lean on and say that she still had, do they poll her numbers like that? off that 5 million who participated or do they poll the whole 10 million that's registered?
 
TheNightKing said:
I just don’t see how you think the message they received was to come with a bag of shit black folks want. Even if they lose more support from black people, the calculus says to cater more to the growing Latino voting block, not black people. Or cater more to white men. Nothing in this says give more to black people.

At the end of the day, at least we had a shot with Kamala. She was willing to show up where we were, whether you thought it was pandering or not.

So at the end of the day, we lose because Republicans not going to suddenly start coming with a bag for black people.
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Latino voting block been there, I guess this is new to you. I think you are trying to shift or find an excuse as if this revelation is new to EVERYONE, no it's not, many folks knew, know how Latinos get down. I told you how they get down in August/September. Are you just finding out that Latinos vote Rep??

Now with the black folks situation:
There is a reason she had Beyonce, Gorilla, Emimen (even though white she think he would cater to the black folks in Detroit), Lebron, She went to black churches, showed up at the BET award show, Meagan was ushered on stage, even had Usher endorse her, Obama was at rallies, "to talk to black men", even had him at rallies, got Quavo, and many more other black folks to talk to the black community.

We are their base and that base is slipping, this has nothing to do with the Latinos, she wasn't going to get majority of them anyway, she knows that black folks are either not voting, not interested in her or will start to look at other options. She had nothing to offer black folks.

The cat is out the bag, "you have nothing to offer black folks" you will not win. Black folks, we are a special people and despite how you may look at stuff, folks look at how we move in these spaces. What we say about ppl. etc. There's a reason she kept going on black shows/podcasts. Don't think for a second that she was doing the shit just because.

Ask yourself this if you think what I'm saying is bull, if she 'knows' that she's going to get 90% of the black vote, why even go on these black platforms, invite these black celebs to speak at rallies, or even have black folks champion you? Go to these black churches, if you know those votes are already in the bag? why burn millions of dollars to do such??



Ask yourself that question, If I have a guarantee of something, I will put in less effort to do such to obtain it, and I would concentrate and use my resources towards "other" things to add/secure to my already guaranteed base?

This definitely says give something to black folks, do you think a lot of black folks voted for her or sat out?

I asked the question, if 10 million blacks were registered voters and only 3 million voted

3 million voted for Kamala, that's 100%, of the black vote that participated in the elections, do the polls take that 100% from the 3 million or do they also include the 7 million who sat at home? in this example?
 
TheNightKing said:
We are not a big enough voting block to swing a 3rd party candidate into power. Jill Stein already getting a minuscule portion of the vote and even if all black people voted for her she’d still lose.

The point is to win, not to just send messages incessantly.

So if Democrats start to turn their back on black people, what is the strategy to get that bag for black people?
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Black folks move the needle, if we are a big enough block that the dems can count on then we can be a big enough block for any party to use.

The point is to make folks earn your vote. Stop voting just to say you voted. That's why you lost now buddy.

Folks are off that train. You need to understand that this is the new wave going forward for 'black folks' whose under 55
 
Knock_Twice said:
Latino voting block been there, I guess this is new to you. I think you are trying to shift or find an excuse as if this revelation is new to EVERYONE, no it's not, many folks knew, know how Latinos get down. I told you how they get down in August/September. Are you just finding out that Latinos vote Rep??

Now with the black folks situation:
There is a reason she had Beyonce, Gorilla, Emimen (even though white she think he would cater to the black folks in Detroit), Lebron, She went to black churches, showed up at the BET award show, Meagan was ushered on stage, even had Usher endorse her, Obama was at rallies, "to talk to black men", even had him at rallies, got Quavo, and many more other black folks to talk to the black community.

We are their base and that base is slipping, this has nothing to do with the Latinos, she wasn't going to get majority of them anyway, she knows that black folks are either not voting, not interested in her or will start to look at other options. She had nothing to offer black folks.

The cat is out the bag, "you have nothing to offer black folks" you will not win. Black folks, we are a special people and despite how you may look at stuff, folks look at how we move in these spaces. What we say about ppl. etc. There's a reason she kept going on black shows/podcasts. Don't think for a second that she was doing the shit just because.

Ask yourself this if you think what I'm saying is bull, if she 'knows' that she's going to get 90% of the black vote, why even go on these black platforms, invite these black celebs to speak at rallies, or even have black folks champion you? Go to these black churches, if you know those votes are already in the bag? why burn millions of dollars to do such??



Ask yourself that question, If I have a guarantee of something, I will put in less effort to do such to obtain it, and I would concentrate and use my resources towards "other" things to add/secure to my already guaranteed base?

This definitely says give something to black folks, do you think a lot of black folks voted for her or sat out?

I asked the question, if 10 million blacks were registered voters and only 3 million voted

3 million voted for Kamala, that's 100%, of the black vote that participated in the elections, do the polls take that 100% from the 3 million or do they also include the 7 million who sat at home? in this example?
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You’re contradicting your own point.

She did all of this black centric stuff because she saw the black vote slipping and still lost because Latinos broke towards Trump.

What message does that send? That Latinos and white men are the priority from now on.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Black folks move the needle, if we are a big enough block that the dems can count on then we can be a big enough block for any party to use.

The point is to make folks earn your vote. Stop voting just to say you voted. That's why you lost now buddy.

Folks are off that train. You need to understand that this is the new wave going forward for 'black folks' whose under 55
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3rd party can’t do it with ONLY the black vote. That’s my point. And any candidate with a solely black platform isn’t getting the whites and Latinos needed to win.
 
TheNightKing said:
You’re contradicting your own point.

She did all of this black centric stuff because she saw the black vote slipping and still lost because Latinos broke towards Trump.

What message does that send? That Latinos and white men are the priority from now on.
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Black folks sat on the couch, I'm not contradicting anything.

Again, I told you back in August or September that those folks don't fuck with her,


You package something for each blocking block and you run off that. That's how you earn votes.

That's the message that's being sent

Use Ice cube shit, package something that black folks need/want, package something that other groups need/want, and you run on that.
 
TheNightKing said:
3rd party can’t do it with ONLY the black vote. That’s my point. And any candidate with a solely black platform isn’t getting the whites and Latinos needed to win.
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You put a package together for each group that you want to have vote for you

Black folks want x, y and z, you come up wit a package for those x, y and z things

Asians want a, b and c, you come up with a package for those a, b, and c things

You as a candidate can add on to x, y, and z, and you can add on to a, b, c, things that those particular groups want to secure their votes. You don't shame them into voting,

you don't say stupid shit, like if you black vote for me. You don't talk down on voters, the voters you need

That's how you win. You listen to the people

Put together 'tangible' gift bags, for the people support you want.

Is that a hard thing to do??
 
Knock_Twice said:
You put a package together for each group that you want to have vote for you

Black folks want x, y and z, you come up wit a package for those x, y and z things

Asians want a, b and c, you come up with a package for those a, b, and c things

You as a candidate can add on to x, y, and z, and you can add on to a, b, c, things that those particular groups want.

That's how you win. You listen to the people

Put together 'tangible' gift bags, for the people support you want.

Is that a hard thing to do??
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You act as if each voting block acts in a vacuum.

If you give blacks x, y, and z, you might lose whites and Latinos.

You withhold x, y, and z from black people, you get the whites and Latinos but lose black people.

So it’s a much more calculated proposition than you’re giving credit to.
 
TheNightKing said:
You act as if each voting block acts in a vacuum.

If you give blacks x, y, and z, you might lose whites and Latinos.

You withhold x, y, and z from black people, you get the whites and Latinos but lose black people.

So it’s a much more calculated proposition than you’re giving credit to.
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It's not. The same way any other race is supposed to be won, you cater to your voters. Ask them what they need and would like to have you do for them.

You put together a package for each group from the answers that you and your team get back

And you run on those things, speak on those items and explain in your speeches what you will do for each group

You don't say what you aint gonna do for black folks, that's how you shoot yourself in the head.

It's not that hard.
 
Knock_Twice said:
It's not. The same way any other race is supposed to be won, you cater to your voters. Ask them what they need and would like to have you do for them.

You put together a package for each group from the answers that you and your team get back

And you run on those things, speak on those items and explain in your speeches what you will do for each group

You don't say what you aint gonna do for black folks, that's how you shoot yourself in the head.

It's not that hard.
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So what happens when a non-negotiable in your black package conflicts with whites and Latinos? To say nothing blacks want will conflict is disingenuous.
 
TheNightKing said:
So what happens when a non-negotiable in your black package conflicts with whites and Latinos? To say nothing blacks want will conflict is disingenuous.
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I'm not understanding what you mean? Could you give me an example.

But as I stated, they could pick apart Ice Cube's plan and prepare a Care Package from that. Add some more ideas etc.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I'm not understanding what you mean? Could you give me an example.

But as I stated, they could pick apart Ice Cube's plan and prepare a Care Package from that. Add some more ideas etc.
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Say reparations is a non-negotiable in the black care package. Whites hate the thought of giving black people money for reparations and will vote against any candidate that propose it.

How do you square that and keep enough people to help you win?
 
TheNightKing said:
That was some bullshit. She could have at least come out and spoke to them and gave them some sort of solace.
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Them folks stood out there since 7:00 a.m. that morning with high energy.

She aint shit for that. Them kids danced and put on for her.

Very filthy shit she did
 
Knock_Twice said:
Them folks stood out there since 7:00 a.m. that morning with high energy.

She aint shit for that. Them kids danced and put on for her.

Very filthy shit she did
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The only consolation I’ll give is at least she came back there to give her concession speech. So not totally discarding the people as that Tweet suggested.
 
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