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2024/2025 NBA Season Thread

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Suckio Andretti said:
“He’s getting by on perceived potential based on being decent a few years ago on OKC”

I don’t understand this
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Means that people still thinks he’s some future all star, instead of taking him as he is right now. If things change then fine. He would be a great 6th man on a contender, and an above average starter on a team like the Bulls, he couldn’t even start for the Nets.
Suckio Andretti said:
So then you’re basing your opinion solely on him in OKC before SGA becoming a MVP candidate and when he had a down year from being slowly phased out and 6 games in Chicago

He’s 22 why would you not factor in potential?
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Why is a future “star” being phased out? Why couldn’t he compliment SGA and Chet and J Will? If he was that guy he would be making one of those guys expendable. They made him expendable.

22 in this era is not 22 of past eras due to guys coming in the league younger. Guys get written off by 21/22/23 and a lot of them rarely recover. He could be a late bloomer but I doubt it.
Suckio Andretti said:
When would he have had the opportunity to get better after his first 2 good years in OKC? It wouldn’t be last year and this season on a team where there’s 5 other guards to contend with the season just started

(Which I’ll add, despite chicago’s roster he’s playing really well)

Where’s the regression coming from if you admitted he’s shooting better?

I almost didn’t answer because you brought up him being white

Don’t say no shit like that to me no more
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Why were other players able to get better in OKC? What was holding him back?

He’s shooting better now but that will not hold up.

I had to take that dig man I’m sorry.
Suckio Andretti said:
I could respond saying you don’t like him because he’s white and that’s a stupid way to discuss players

Giddey is good to me because he is a young solid overall player who can do a lot to impact the game offensively. He’s a great passer and connector in an offense and he’s a solid rebounder for his position

hes nowhere near a finished product and won’t even enter his prime for another 3 seasons

His potential is great even if he might not be a positive defender
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I don’t like when cacs get overrated. I’m sorry.

He’s closer to a finished product than not at this point. What do you think his ceiling is? Is he someone you think he can be built around?
 
5th Letter said:
Means that people still thinks he’s some future all star, instead of taking him as he is right now. If things change then fine. He would be a great 6th man on a contender, and an above average starter on a team like the Bulls, he couldn’t even start for the Nets.

Why is a future “star” being phased out? Why couldn’t he compliment SGA and Chet and J Will? If he was that guy he would be making one of those guys expendable. They made him expendable.

22 in this era is not 22 of past eras due to guys coming in the league younger. Guys get written off by 21/22/23 and a lot of them rarely recover. He could be a late bloomer but I doubt it.

Why were other players able to get better in OKC? What was holding him back?

He’s shooting better now but that will not hold up.

I had to take that dig man I’m sorry.

I don’t like when cacs get overrated. I’m sorry.

He’s closer to a finished product than not at this point. What do you think his ceiling is? Is he someone you think he can be built around?
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“Means that people still thinks he’s some future all star, instead of taking him as he is right now. If things change then fine. He would be a great 6th man on a contender, and an above average starter on a team like the Bulls, he couldn’t even start for the Nets.“

1. Who in their right mind wouldn’t factor in trajectory when evaluating a player? This whole future star/all star angle is weird because who talks about Giddey that way?

He’s a good young player

“Why is a future “star” being phased out? Why couldn’t he compliment SGA and Chet and J Will? If he was that guy he would be making one of those guys expendable. They made him expendable.“

2. Roster construction. Why would you have Giddey and for the money he would cost when you already have 2 PGs on the roster and one of them is a top 10 player?

“22 in this era is not 22 of past eras due to guys coming in the league younger. Guys get written off by 21/22/23 and a lot of them rarely recover. He could be a late bloomer but I doubt it.”

3. This is bullshit. You talk like Giddey is a player who’s a foot out the league. You’re more hype over Ziarie Williams who’s a year older than Giddey. Would you say he’s a finished product? Would you say Kuminga is? Tre mann? Jalen Johnson? These are guys in Giddey’s class. These are all guys who peaked?

4. The rest of your post is hater shit like you assuming he won’t shoot better (which is like saying Lonzo will never be a good shooter after his stint with the lakers)

What is Giddey rated to be overrated?

If Jaden Ivey averaged the numbers that Giddey did for his career, niggas would throw a party.

Yes an all around solid PG is a good player to build around when starting a team but he won’t be the best player which is fine.
 
Suckio Andretti said:
1. Who in their right mind wouldn’t factor in trajectory when evaluating a player? This whole future star/all star angle is weird because who talks about Giddey that way?
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Because despite his age, he’s gotten enough opportunities to gauge where he is at this point as a player. The general perception of Giddey was all star potential.
Suckio Andretti said:
2. Roster construction. Why would you have Giddey and for the money he would cost when you already have 2 PGs on the roster and one of them is a top 10 player?
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Why would any of that matter if Giddey was that good? Do you think a team would hesitate to pay a guy if he was that guy? What does that say about Giddey?
Suckio Andretti said:
3. This is bullshit. You talk like Giddey is a player who’s a foot out the league. You’re more hype over Ziarie Williams who’s a year older than Giddey. Would you say he’s a finished product? Would you say Kuminga is? Tre mann? Jalen Johnson? These are guys in Giddey’s class. These are all guys who peaked?
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I’m not talking like Ziaire is a star, I’m giving him credit for playing well and helping my team win, how dare me 🙄. I never said Giddey is a finished product I said hes closer to being one, especially given the fact that he’s gotten more opportunities than the guys you mentioned and it was only like last year where Jalen Johnson really got a chance to shine.
Suckio Andretti said:
The rest of your post is hater shit like you assuming he won’t shoot better (which is like saying Lonzo will never be a good shooter after his stint with the lakers)

What is Giddey rated to be overrated?

If Jaden Ivey averaged the numbers that Giddey did for his career, niggas would throw a party.

Yes an all around solid PG is a good player to build around when starting a team but he won’t be the best player which is fine.
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Pointing out anomalies doesn’t disprove the point.

Ivey been better than Giddey though 🤔

How are you building around someone if he’s not the best player? Could Giddey be a building block? Sure, but those are two different things.
 
Suckio Andretti said:
“Means that people still thinks he’s some future all star, instead of taking him as he is right now. If things change then fine. He would be a great 6th man on a contender, and an above average starter on a team like the Bulls, he couldn’t even start for the Nets.“

1. Who in their right mind wouldn’t factor in trajectory when evaluating a player? This whole future star/all star angle is weird because who talks about Giddey that way?

He’s a good young player

“Why is a future “star” being phased out? Why couldn’t he compliment SGA and Chet and J Will? If he was that guy he would be making one of those guys expendable. They made him expendable.“

2. Roster construction. Why would you have Giddey and for the money he would cost when you already have 2 PGs on the roster and one of them is a top 10 player?

“22 in this era is not 22 of past eras due to guys coming in the league younger. Guys get written off by 21/22/23 and a lot of them rarely recover. He could be a late bloomer but I doubt it.”

3. This is bullshit. You talk like Giddey is a player who’s a foot out the league. You’re more hype over Ziarie Williams who’s a year older than Giddey. Would you say he’s a finished product? Would you say Kuminga is? Tre mann? Jalen Johnson? These are guys in Giddey’s class. These are all guys who peaked?

4. The rest of your post is hater shit like you assuming he won’t shoot better (which is like saying Lonzo will never be a good shooter after his stint with the lakers)

What is Giddey rated to be overrated?

If Jaden Ivey averaged the numbers that Giddey did for his career, niggas would throw a party.

Yes an all around solid PG is a good player to build around when starting a team but he won’t be the best player which is fine.
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Nigga righting a novel for Josh Giddey , i'm dead
 
5th Letter said:
Because despite his age, he’s gotten enough opportunities to gauge where he is at this point as a player. The general perception of Giddey was all star potential.

Why would any of that matter if Giddey was that good? Do you think a team would hesitate to pay a guy if he was that guy? What does that say about Giddey?

I’m not talking like Ziaire is a star, I’m giving him credit for playing well and helping my team win, how dare me 🙄. I never said Giddey is a finished product I said hes closer to being one, especially given the fact that he’s gotten more opportunities than the guys you mentioned and it was only like last year where Jalen Johnson really got a chance to shine.

Pointing out anomalies doesn’t disprove the point.

Ivey been better than Giddey though 🤔

How are you building around someone if he’s not the best player? Could Giddey be a building block? Sure, but those are two different things.
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5th Letter said:
Because despite his age, he’s gotten enough opportunities to gauge where he is at this point as a player. The general perception of Giddey was all star potential.

Why would any of that matter if Giddey was that good? Do you think a team would hesitate to pay a guy if he was that guy? What does that say about Giddey?

I’m not talking like Ziaire is a star, I’m giving him credit for playing well and helping my team win, how dare me 🙄. I never said Giddey is a finished product I said hes closer to being one, especially given the fact that he’s gotten more opportunities than the guys you mentioned and it was only like last year where Jalen Johnson really got a chance to shine.

Pointing out anomalies doesn’t disprove the point.

Ivey been better than Giddey though 🤔

How are you building around someone if he’s not the best player? Could Giddey be a building block? Sure, but those are two different things.
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Sorry sir I don’t care anymore but thank you for this

Ivey would kill to have giddey’s career btw
 
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