OPINION Is Pornography being used as a weapon for Psychological Warfare?🤔
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konceptjones
The one between three and three.
This is the single biggest difference between porn in my generation and Millennials/GenZ. We didn't have immediate access to porn back inna day, you had to jump through hoops and even then all you might have had was a magazine like Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, etc which didn't have hardcore material in those days (magazines that could be sold at a corner store or "regular" bookstore like Borders weren't allowed to show penetration until sometime in the mid-late 90's). Movies were much harder to get unless you had that one friend with a worn out copy of something on VHS that got passed around. Nowadays it's a simple search that anyone can do from a pc, phone, or tablet and you're looking at some broad taking three dicks in her ass at once and one in her mouth.
Northside7
Active Member
You be watching those AnalVids/PissVid videos? lol
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
It was an exaggeration to illustrate just how easy it is to get to utter depravity vs when I was a kid.
Dwayne
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I’m a millennial myself born in 87 and we didn’t have access to point like that either we have to get the DVDs. Internet porn wasn’t a thing like that yet till I was 17-18
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Bruh, by the time you were 10 internet porn was most definitely a thing, easy as shit to access, and they even had live porn streaming via Real Player. All it took was a Yahoo search on anything porn related, and in 1997 you would have been greeted with mad porn banner ads in between search results. Same for any other search engine of the day (Alta Vista, Excite, Lycos, etc). The internet back then was way more open than it is today.
Dwayne
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Lmao. When I was ten it was EXTREMELY RARE for somebody to own a computer.
EXTREMELY
You had a better chance finding 100 dollar bill on the ground
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Maybe where you were at, yeah. But up here in the nawf, lotta folks I knew had PC's.
But even still, regardless of whether or not you had a PC back then, the proliferation of porn on the internet was a very, very real thing. It was everywhere and very easy to access. Even on AOL, porn was all over their chatrooms as far back as '94. Shit was easy as hell to find.
Dwayne
Laissez le bon temps rouler
In 97 very few people had computers fam.
It is what it is.
And it does matter how many people had them because that’s more distribution of porn.
Until about 2002 your source of porn came from DVDs. Nobody like that was owning computers. Most of the people couldn’t afford them.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Very few people you knew.
But you still don't seem to get it: Regardless of how many people had a PC, porn on the internet was rampant in those days. You may not have been aware of it 'cause you didn't have a PC, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. It did, and there was a fuckton of it available to consume freely.
Dwayne
Laissez le bon temps rouler
Numbers don’t lie about how many Americans had pc in 1997
It existed but the ease and access to it was nowhere near comparable to now. Add in the addition of smart phones and older millenials, those in late 30s/early 40s, didn't have wide open access to porn same til the same time everyone else did.
And even in the early chat room days folks were more discreet about it.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
If you had a PC/Mac and had dial-up, you had access to it and it was completely unfiltered. There was no "safe search" options in those days. Innocent search terms could return more porn than what you were even looking for.
Back then any computer with internet access was a gateway to porn. School PC's, public library PC's, PC's on display in stores trying to sell them, etc were all open to it. Content filtering came after it became a problem. Even in the early 00's, if your cellphone (i.e. NOT a smartphone) had a web browser, you had access to porn and probably just didn't realize it.
I think what y'all are not grasping is that what @Dwayne said here is completely untrue whether any of you were aware or it or not:
It was "a thing like that", and it was noted to be a problem. It was so bad of a problem the government tried to ban it all together in 1996. The SCOTUS ruled against it, but the point still stands:
Supreme Court nixes ban on Internet pornography
WASHINGTON (AP) — In its first free-speech ruling for the computer age, the Supreme Court said Thursday that a congressional attempt to keep pornography off the Internet violated the Constitution’s First Amendment. The government cannot limit adults to seeing “only what is fit for children,” the...
variety.com
So, if it "wasn't a thing like that", why would there have been the need to try to pass laws banning it??? Because, as I said earlier, the shit was rampant. It was bad, it was everywhere and there really wasn't anything you could do to keep from seeing it. Remember: Just because you weren't aware of it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were all manner of think pieces and op-eds written about just how bad the internet porn problem was in the 90's, even CP was a pretty big issue in those days.
INTERNET AWASH IN PORNOGRAPHY
When the Supreme Court threw out the Communications Decency Act in June, it suggested that pornography on the Internet was no big problem. “The risk of encountering indecent material by accid…
www.orlandosentinel.com
INTERNET PORN COULD BE A THORN IN LIBRARIES’ SIDE
“Parents who would rather their children not have access to certain materials should take responsibility and so advise their children.” –Chicago Public Library Commissioner Mary A…
www.chicagotribune.com
O.C. Libraries Grapple With Internet Porn
Things used to be simpler at the public library.
www.latimes.com
The Regulation of Pornography and Child Pornography on the Internet
Pornography has been the most controversial topic arising from the use of the Internet in recent years. Its availability on the Internet has caused fear and a &
papers.ssrn.com
If you had a PC/Mac and had dial-up, you had access to it and it was completely unfiltered. There was no "safe search" options in those days. Innocent search terms could return more porn than what you were even looking for.
Back then any computer with internet access was a gateway to porn. School PC's, public library PC's, PC's on display in stores trying to sell them, etc were all open to it. Content filtering came after it became a problem. Even in the early 00's, if your cellphone (i.e. NOT a smartphone) had a web browser, you had access to porn and probably just didn't realize it.
I think what y'all are not grasping is that what @Dwayne said here is completely untrue whether any of you were aware or it or not:
It was "a thing like that", and it was noted to be a problem. It was so bad of a problem the government tried to ban it all together in 1996. The SCOTUS ruled against it, but the point still stands:
Supreme Court nixes ban on Internet pornography
WASHINGTON (AP) — In its first free-speech ruling for the computer age, the Supreme Court said Thursday that a congressional attempt to keep pornography off the Internet violated the Constitution’s First Amendment. The government cannot limit adults to seeing “only what is fit for children,” the...
So, if it "wasn't a thing like that", why would there have been the need to try to pass laws banning it??? Because, as I said earlier, the shit was rampant. It was bad, it was everywhere and there really wasn't anything you could do to keep from seeing it. Remember: Just because you weren't aware of it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. There were all manner of think pieces and op-eds written about just how bad the internet porn problem was in the 90's, even CP was a pretty big issue in those days.
INTERNET AWASH IN PORNOGRAPHY
When the Supreme Court threw out the Communications Decency Act in June, it suggested that pornography on the Internet was no big problem. “The risk of encountering indecent material by accid…
INTERNET PORN COULD BE A THORN IN LIBRARIES’ SIDE
“Parents who would rather their children not have access to certain materials should take responsibility and so advise their children.” –Chicago Public Library Commissioner Mary A…
O.C. Libraries Grapple With Internet Porn
Things used to be simpler at the public library.
The Regulation of Pornography and Child Pornography on the Internet
Pornography has been the most controversial topic arising from the use of the Internet in recent years. Its availability on the Internet has caused fear and a &papers.ssrn.com
I think what you're missing is that now...everyone has a personal computer on them at all times. In the days of dial up internet not only were home computers not as prevalent, but the shared use also made it so younger people were less likely to try and access some shit they knew somebody else would see. So yes internet porn was available in the 90s. That can't and should be denied...but to say the access was the same isn't true at all. Before you needed full dial up internet and most likely some use of a computer in public or shared space. Now with a smart phone you can look up anything at anytime and nobody knows unless they dig through your search history.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Any early 00's cellphone with a web browser also had access to it. Again, you probably weren't aware of it.
I had one of these:
Released in 2004. It has a web browser on it and porn was readily available on it. Same for the Motorola Razr everybody seemed to have, also released in '94.
As for whether kids would try to find porn: How do you think most adults even knew it was out there??? After their kid was caught looking at it! That's why the bills introduced at the state and federal levels were brought forth: Because kids had discovered porn on the internet.
Look, my argument was never about whether or not everyone had a PC or how it's delivered via cellphone today, it's the fact that internet porn was a "thing" and a problem almost from the point where people first began getting internet access and that happened in the 90's.
Any early 00's cellphone with a web browser also had access to it. Again, you probably weren't aware of it.
I had one of these:
Released in 2004. It has a web browser on it and porn was readily available on it. Same for the Motorola Razr everybody seemed to have, also released in '94.
As for whether kids would try to find porn: How do you think most adults even knew it was out there??? After their kid was caught looking at it! That's why the bills introduced at the state and federal levels were brought forth: Because kids had discovered porn on the internet.
Look, my argument was never about whether or not everyone had a PC or how it's delivered via cellphone today, it's the fact that internet porn was a "thing" and a problem almost from the point where people first began getting internet access and that happened in the 90's.
I was aware of it. You do this thing where you often assume because you're older you're the only person who remembers certain shit. In 04 cell phone internet access wasn't like it is now. You still had to pay extra for it with alot of plans, there were bandwith and service limits, and it didn't move at the speed it did now making trying to view certain things on a mobile device pointless for most people. Most people didn't have internet access on their phones because most didn't want to pay extra for it.
Yes internet porn was a thing in the 90s...but as technology gave people quicker and more private ways to access it became alot worse.
Loneshot
Active Member
You are both right. Few had a computer, but millennials were watching porn at 10...just not the porn you guys are thinking of.
What became a lot more common in the late 90s/early 00s is sex on tv/film/media. A lot more people had cable by this time, which is a shopping mall of selling sex. HBO alone had Real Sex and Hooker/Pimp docuseries that were pretty in depth. IFC always had indie-sex, which always looked more graphic than what was on Cinemax, which was also regularly showing softcore.
Britney Spears. Clearly a teenage girl asking for sex. American Pie introduced jacking off to a lot of kids. That movie was really popular when I was in middle school. Then there was BET Uncut and Girls Gone Wild before that.
So you are both right. The porn was there, just in its tester stage, creating fiends as they approached adulthood.
What became a lot more common in the late 90s/early 00s is sex on tv/film/media. A lot more people had cable by this time, which is a shopping mall of selling sex. HBO alone had Real Sex and Hooker/Pimp docuseries that were pretty in depth. IFC always had indie-sex, which always looked more graphic than what was on Cinemax, which was also regularly showing softcore.
Britney Spears. Clearly a teenage girl asking for sex. American Pie introduced jacking off to a lot of kids. That movie was really popular when I was in middle school. Then there was BET Uncut and Girls Gone Wild before that.
So you are both right. The porn was there, just in its tester stage, creating fiends as they approached adulthood.
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Oh yeah there definitely was no secret to how hard sex was being sold with everything. And it was done in all sorts of nasty ways too.
mike030270
Memes
Don't know how old you are but limewire had porn back in early 2000s. Plus we had Cinemax and those late night tv programs that had porn back in the 90s. Not even close to the same quality but 30+ had access to porn as kids. It was also a lot easier to sneak into adult movies back then
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
When someone says "we didn't have..." and clearly we did have, chances are pretty high that you simply weren't aware of it existing. It ain't because I'm older, I was just aware of it, maybe you weren't. That's what I put forth. There are older Millennials that would agree with me and those that would agree with you; it all depends on what their experience with the internet at that time looked like.
My little brother's (early Millennial) experience is gonna be different from my baby sister's (mid/late Millennial) experience, and the both of them will greatly differ from my oldest daughter's experience (very late Millennial). My brother might agree with me whereas my sister and daughter might agree with you.