COMMUNITY United States Politics Thread: Trump's Second Term

I can't really consider that going harder. Albania is like the size of MD with a population that's like a third of MD. In other words, with the No Kings protests, you had multiple protests comparable to the Albanian protest going on across the U.S. Sure, a greater percentage of their population stood up, but that's because everyone in their country is aligned against a threat coming from the outside. The protests here were against a threat on the inside that about a third of our population at the least, supports.

I don't think it's a fair comparison or criticism. Americans against Trump have been protesting him since before he even got into office. And depending on what you believe multiple people have tried to kill him.
The protest was for both. Outside(Ivanka and Kushner) as well as their government pertaining to the corruption.

They’ve been protesting their government for 4+ months now.

The outsider influence on corruption though Ivanka/Kushner was the tipping poiht

I think it was Freeman that said it a while ago. For all the shit that has been happening over the last two years and the effects we’ve felt from it, you’d think we would harder.

I mean a protected island being sold to Ivanka and company brought up the heat from the people there.

To me we’ve seen just as bad if not worse here and it’s pretty muted.
 
The protest was for both. Outside(Ivanka and Kushner) as well as their government pertaining to the corruption.

They’ve been protesting their government for 4+ months now.

The outsider influence on corruption though Ivanka/Kushner was the tipping poiht

I think it was Freeman that said it a while ago. For all the shit that has been happening over the last two years and the effects we’ve felt from it, you’d think we would harder.

I mean a protected island being sold to Ivanka and company brought up the heat from the people there.

To me we’ve seen just as bad if not worse here and it’s pretty muted.

I wouldn't say its muted. People just have lives. Something happens literally everyday that should have the masses in the streets, but people just can't do that. It's not feasible.

I don't think the problem here is that citizens aren't fighting back hard enough. The problem is that this presidency has demonstrated that the people don't have as much power as we were told we did. In the past resistance only worked because we had presidents that cared to some extent about following the rules. Now we have a president that doesn't care at all about that, and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do to stop him. If Congress, law enforcement, the military, and the courts won't do anything, what can the average citizen actually do?
 
I wouldn't say its muted. People just have lives. Something happens literally everyday that should have the masses in the streets, but people just can't do that. It's not feasible.

I don't think the problem here is that citizens aren't fighting back hard enough. The problem is that this presidency has demonstrated that the people don't have as much power as we were told we did. In the past resistance only worked because we had presidents that cared to some extent about following the rules. Now we have a president that doesn't care at all about that, and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do to stop him. If Congress, law enforcement, the military, and the courts won't do anything, what can the average citizen actually do?

I wouldn't say its muted. People just have lives. Something happens literally everyday that should have the masses in the streets, but people just can't do that. It's not feasible.

I hear you. Same time Those folks in Albania have lived too right?


I don't think the problem here is that citizens aren't fighting back hard enough. The problem is that this presidency has demonstrated that the people don't have as much power as we were told we did. In the past resistance only worked because we had presidents that cared to some extent about following the rules. Now we have a president that doesn't care at all about that, and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do to stop him. If Congress, law enforcement, the military, and the courts won't do anything, what can the average citizen actually do?

This is approaching chicken and the egg type discussion. As well as speaking to the choir.

A lot of us here including you knew that Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself first, family and those who serve him.(preaching to the choir here)

The evidence was demonstrated over and over (him being a rapist, defrauding etc).

The evidence of him not caring about mass people protesting him like other presidents in the past was shown through the above, in that why would someone care about the masses or systems of checks and balances if he rapes and defrauds folks.(Again preaching to the choir)


Our power was our vote and folks exercised their right/ power either by not voting, voting 3rd party or voting against him.

Our power was not to vote for the people that enabled or covered for him(republicans)

The reasons why it happened (the chicks and egg discussion) has been litigated time and time again here.

On top of that, you and I are just talking political power.

We have economic power in that we could boycott, or curtail our spending toward the financial backers that enabled or pushed him to the front.

Overall we ain’t doing it, we are dropping the ball.
 
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