How would a father or mother that has a daughter feel about hearing their daughter have 3 abortions in 2 or 3 years?
How would it affect their mental? Let's start using real life reality.
Not sure if you have any daughters, but if your daughter came home and told you and your wife she has had 3 abortions and is about to have her 4th one in over 4 or 5 years and she isn't 26,
Would you gone about your day and let her be? Her body right? or would your dad instincts or your wife's instincts kick in as a parent and have some say in her decision?
why should my personal feelings have anything to do with the law?
it's like u can't make a fair logical appeal so u resort to pure emotions to justify the hypocrisy of acting like it makes sense to have the govt controlling a private person's decisions
for the record I have kids (son and daughter) and they are adults
I can't control my daughter having sex, getting pregnant, or deciding on getting an abortion if she chooses too........I'd look goofy trying to use the law to enforce my personal opinion
my stance has always been to make it fair on both sides.......people should be able to choose
men shouldn't be forced to pay child support and the govt has no business trying to control a woman's personal choices
since when is the law with govt enforcement the best metric for morality anyways
mofos sound like they are in favor of sharia law in here
It's not solely the woman's body. The baby has a body... That's what the abortion is acting on.
I don't think abortions are unacceptable.
You're only looking at it controlling someone's personal business because you're only recognizing the mother as a person.
Babies are recognized before birth. People get charged with murder for killing women and their unborn children. Mother's get in trouble for doing things that harm their baby before it's born.
I dont have a problem with the concept of police and courts. I just think there are bad people doing shitty things in those positions.
No, currently men shouldn't be held responsible for women getting abortions because they have 0 decision making power. If pregnancy was the crime, sure. But it's abortion.
why should my personal feelings have anything to do with the law?
it's like u can't make a fair logical appeal so u resort to pure emotions to justify the hypocrisy of acting like it makes sense to have the govt controlling a private person's decisions
for the record I have kids (son and daughter) and they are adults
I can't control my daughter having sex, getting pregnant, or deciding on getting an abortion if she chooses too........I'd look goofy trying to use the law to enforce my personal opinion
my stance has always been to make it fair on both sides.......people should be able to choose
men shouldn't be forced to pay child support and the govt has no business trying to control a woman's personal choices
since when is the law with govt enforcement the best metric for morality anyways
mofos sound like they are in favor of sharia law in here
I asked you a reality question or took a more of a reality approach knowing that you come from under the old law given that folks that come from the old law, most might want to become grandparents some day and usually would have a say in whether what decision is decided. In normal houses it would be discussed under the old law, maybe not with the dad but the mother would know about her daughter's or daughters position on the manner. Even if the daughter is not under the same roof...most women tell someone that they are pregnant and the 1st person is usually their mothers or bestie...
Not saying that you dont have your Brenda got a baby situationz where they try and sneak off and do it on their own but for the most part, the mother of the daughter usually know her daughter's situation and has an input.
Not speaking on your personal feelings with the law, I am more so speaking on it being that your daughter came to you 2 or 3 times with the same thing about her having a baby and shes all willy nilly saying she done made her appointment and you and your wife are in so many words saying to her
Drive safely, we bout to head out to Bible Studies is what to me is not reality. And it should not be reality in my opinion...Mines only
I would think that you after abortion number 2 or 3 would have something to say about the situation or your wife.
Kids are adults but most kids that are adults are always kids to their parents....no matter the age, parents, especially mothers always see their kids as kids
The tracking isn't necessary though to know if you're pregnant within 6 weeks. Spend about $2/month and take your morning piss on a stick on the 1st and 15th. Seems really simple, easy, and convenient.
So I'm asking do you think that's nearly impossible to do, or it's nearly impossible to detect pregnancy within 6 weeks doing that? I don't understand what about that you're seeing as nearly impossible.
And it's done so often, but you keep calling it nearly impossible. It's confusing me.
About 1 in 3 women discover they're pregnant after six weeks. That's not a small amount. And again taking monthly pregnancy tests is a ridiculous suggestion. And again why do you think women track their cycles? One reason is to know when they're ovulating. It's very much necessary if you're trying to avoid or if you're trying for a baby to know that.
About 1 in 3 women discover they're pregnant after six weeks. That's not a small amount. And again taking monthly pregnancy tests is a ridiculous suggestion. And again why do you think women track their cycles? One reason is to know when they're ovulating. It's very much necessary if you're trying to avoid or if you're trying for a baby to know that.
So 2/3 of pregnant women manage to find out they're pregnant within the first 6 weeks, and you still want to describe it as nearly impossible? Even though most women do it? I'm not following again.
What's ridiculous about it? Given the 6 week law, and the consequences for discovering the pregnancy after 6 weeks it's not a terrible idea. It's not costly, time consuming, or inconvenient. So how's it ridiculous besides you just saying it's ridiculous?
I'm not talking about avoiding or getting pregnant. I'm talking about being aware of a pregnancy within the first 6 weeks (isn't that what you described as nearly impossible?). You can take care of that without tracking anything.
I asked you a reality question or took a more of a reality approach knowing that you come from under the old law given that folks that come from the old law, most might want to become grandparents some day and usually would have a say in whether what decision is decided. In normal houses it would be discussed under the old law, maybe not with the dad but the mother would know about her daughter's or daughters position on the manner. Even if the daughter is not under the same roof...most women tell someone that they are pregnant and the 1st person is usually their mothers or bestie...
Not saying that you dont have your Brenda got a baby situationz where they try and sneak off and do it on their own but for the most part, the mother of the daughter usually know her daughter's situation and has an input.
Not speaking on your personal feelings with the law, I am more so speaking on it being that your daughter came to you 2 or 3 times with the same thing about her having a baby and shes all willy nilly saying she done made her appointment and you and your wife are in so many words saying to her
Drive safely, we bout to head out to Bible Studies is what to me is not reality. And it should not be reality in my opinion...Mines only
I would think that you after abortion number 2 or 3 would have something to say about the situation or your wife.
Kids are adults but most kids that are adults are always kids to their parents....no matter the age, parents, especially mothers always see their kids as kids
So 2/3 of pregnant women manage to find out they're pregnant within the first 6 weeks, and you still want to describe it as nearly impossible? Even though most women do it? I'm not following again.
What's ridiculous about it? Given the 6 week law, and the consequences for discovering the pregnancy after 6 weeks it's not a terrible idea. It's not costly, time consuming, or inconvenient. So how's it ridiculous besides you just saying it's ridiculous?
I'm not talking about avoiding or getting pregnant. I'm talking about being aware of a pregnancy within the first 6 weeks (isn't that what you described as nearly impossible?). You can take care of that without tracking anything.
You're not following because you're so dug in on 6 weeks being a cut off point when as already told to you that's not the standard everywhere. Also given that even if pregnant most women's doctor's appointments aren't until the 7th or 8th week, it again removes their ability to make a completely informed decision.
The average mother, or even myself or dad that's in the life of my daughter or daughter came to the house and told me that she is about to have an abortion, a conversation would be had and I would express my concerns along with her mother.
We can poll all the posters on here and ask them, what would be their approach if their 1st born daughter came to them about aborting, and I can bet you that the majority would have a deep conversation about what would happened.
It wouldn't be on some, "It's your body" do what you want. I'm off to work. It'll be more than a 2 minute conversation.
Real life is very different from how folks type and respond to these threads on here, that's why I like to present things in a real life form.
Most fathers and mothers I know of the present and past, would invest time with their daughter if they are thinking about aborting or even have saying that they are about to have a baby.
If your children stated to you that they was about to go and kill their 3rd grade teacher and they came to you, you are telling me, that you as their father can't stop that from happening by talking to them?? or are you on some "they already have their mind made up" They grown,?
Nah, I aint buying that BFK, you come from that old law brotha, you're not about to let your kids/adult kids crash out like that....I'm sure you and any other parent on this board will do what it takes to change their mind and show them the way..
Your children don't listen to you? even as an adult. Some things you can prevent you adult children from doing, and having an abortion is one of them.... Moving to a new state is 50/50, going back to an old ex 50/50 but a child talking about aborting a child, your grandchild, a parent can change a mind and make sense of the matter.
Whether if it's for keeping the kid or killing the baby.
Parents can influence a decision good or bad on kids that are adults
The average mother, or even myself or dad that's in the life of my daughter or daughter came to the house and told me that she is about to have an abortion, a conversation would be had and I would express my concerns along with her mother.
We can poll all the posters on here and ask them, what would be their approach if their 1st born daughter came to them about aborting, and I can bet you that the majority would have a deep conversation about what would happened.
It wouldn't be on some, "It's your body" do what you want. I'm off to work. It'll be more than a 2 minute conversation.
Real life is very different from how folks type and respond to these threads on here, that's why I like to present things in a real life form.
Most fathers and mothers I know of the present and past, would invest time with their daughter if they are thinking about aborting or even have saying that they are about to have a baby.
I feel like u trying to imply something about my parenting skills tho with the bolded
I been in my children's lives their entire lives so trying to have a serious long convo at that point is too late IMO
as a father my role is to instill values
so if they do something contrary to my values it's only so much talking is going to do at that point..........that means they deliberately made a decision I don't agree with
and realistically u can't do shit with an adult child other than accept their decision(s) or cut them off IRL
and cutting them off isn't practical and not really part of the deal as a true parent
If your children stated to you that they was about to go and kill their 3rd grade teacher and they came to you, you are telling me, that you as their father can't stop that from happening by talking to them?? or are you on some "they already have their mind made up" They grown,?
Nah, I aint buying that BFK, you come from that old law brotha, you're not about to let your kids/adult kids crash out like that....I'm sure you and any other parent on this board will do what it takes to change their mind and show them the way..
Your children don't listen to you? even as an adult. Some things you can prevent you adult children from doing, and having an abortion is one of them.... Moving to a new state is 50/50, going back to an old ex 50/50 but a child talking about aborting a child, your grandchild, a parent can change a mind and make sense of the matter.
Whether if it's for keeping the kid or killing the baby.
Parents can influence a decision good or bad on kids that are adults
at the bolded if u talmbout an 8yr old then ofc I can physically stop them from killing their 3rd grade teacher
but as a legal 18+yr old adult living on their own, there is nothing u can do except call the laws (which I'm not doing to my own blood) or actually assault ur own kid urself
and depending on the reason they would even want to kill their teacher, I'd prob be more willing to do it myself on my kid's behalf
as far as stopping an abortion u must think some people are robots
my kids respect my opinion but it's more important to me is that they think for themselves
any parent would love to know their kids care about keeping their parents' approval
but a real parent who raised their children to be independent would hope their child would have enough intestinal fortitude to stand up to their parents on a decision they personally truly believe in
an abortion is a serious thing
and I hate that mofos keep talmbout abortion like it's some kind of simple method of birth control used by "lesser" women
How would a father or mother that has a daughter feel about hearing their daughter have 3 abortions in 2 or 3 years?
How would it affect their mental? Let's start using real life reality.
Not sure if you have any daughters, but if your daughter came home and told you and your wife she has had 3 abortions and is about to have her 4th one in over 4 or 5 years and she isn't 26,
Would you gone about your day and let her be? Her body right? or would your dad instincts or your wife's instincts kick in as a parent and have some say in her decision?
I feel like u trying to imply something about my parenting skills tho with the bolded
I been in my children's lives their entire lives so trying to have a serious long convo at that point is too late IMO
as a father my role is to instill values
so if they do something contrary to my values it's only so much talking is going to do at that point..........that means they deliberately made a decision I don't agree with
and realistically u can't do shit with an adult child other than accept their decision(s) or cut them off IRL
and cutting them off isn't practical and not really part of the deal as a true parent
Man chill out wit that BFK, Lol, man i'm sure you've done a wonderful job raising your children that's why I am questioning you and I would think that a conversation would be had with your child/adult children.
Let me say, for me, posts that I read in this thread and how it's coming off is that, a person's daughter is pregnant, however the age, the dad, since it's men in this thread, somehow finds out through the grapevine....and it's "Oh it's her body, she can do what she will with the baby" It's her decision, that's what I am taking from the conversation.
That's how it's coming off to me when I read some of these posts in here, which is why I am stating that (in many homes, especially black homes with a dad and mother) the daughter would tell her mother and if the father is there, tell him and they all would have a conversation about the next steps, whether it's to kill the baby or keep the baby.
Nobody, at least me is thinking this is a simple process, but funny that you say that, again, reading these posts from folks in this thread, they are making it seem like it is a simple process because it's the woman's choice (in a sense) according to them and their thoughts. White feminists talk.
That's why I keep pounding on the whole, these kids are adults, yes many are, but still as parents of these adult kids, you and that adult kid should (imo) have a conversation about what's taking place,
Just because someone's daughter is an adult doesn't mean that the daughter needs to make this decision on her own, since you and I agree that this is a serious topic/matter.
Killing a baby, or aborting as you all say, (same thing) should be discussed with the father, his parents and her parents but you all (from reading you all posts) think a man is trying to control a woman, it's the woman's body etc talk in which, she can do what she please, which seems to me, that the process of doing it that way as you all suggest is stupid and will cause even more mental trauma for that woman down the line in her future.
Imo, a woman alone shouldn't be the only one deciding on killing the baby or keeping it...yes nobody flat out said that, but the post indicates it, none of the posts mentioned anything about her family, the father's family being involved in the decision, in fact, your post (from how I read it) penalizes the father or men...in which I don't even know where you get that from...or how you come up with that notion.
All I'm saying is again, a woman, adult women and especially a teenager should not be making a decision on her own, just because you all deem the whole "it's her body" narrative that you all stole from white feminists
Those are white feminists talking points that black folks are starting to use nowadays.
at the bolded if u talmbout an 8yr old then ofc I can physically stop them from killing their 3rd grade teacher
but as a legal 18+yr old adult living on their own, there is nothing u can do except call the laws (which I'm not doing to my own blood) or actually assault ur own kid urself
and depending on the reason they would even want to kill their teacher, I'd prob be more willing to do it myself on my kid's behalf
as far as stopping an abortion u must think some people are robots
my kids respect my opinion but it's more important to me is that they think for themselves
any parent would love to know their kids care about keeping their parents' approval
but a real parent who raised their children to be independent would hope their child would have enough intestinal fortitude to stand up to their parents on a decision they personally truly believe in
an abortion is a serious thing
and I hate that mofos keep talmbout abortion like it's some kind of simple method of birth control used by "lesser" women
I brought up the whole parent and daughter holding a conversation about this ordeal. In posts, this was not even a consideration. It was more on the woman that is pregnant is going into this whole process alone.
My 1st point is that she should not be going into this process alone. Ever. Even if the dude who got her pregnant is not around.
Aborting brings on serve mental issues that seems to never come up when these threads are made. None of the male feminists on here bring up the after effects of aborting a kid, or kids, how the shit affects the mother, and the father year later down the line.
You know why they don't bring it up, because they don't look at the whole entire scope. They'll bring up some shit about how the mother will be all alone raising a kid etc, when in fact there are many programs that will help single mothers, especially in 2026.
Mental health, aborting a baby and aborting babies more than 1 times, brings on shit that sit with a women, father, for a life time.
My 2nd point that is that a parents opinion/direction, I'm talking on this matter, Aborting, nothing else (folks like to drift off the subject) We are talking about a parent, mother and father, and if so, the father of the child and his parents, sitting down and talking about the next steps and explaining to the daughter and her dude or if it just her, the pros and cons of aborting a child, and keeping one.
That's parenting 101.
Yea, kids need to think for themselves on certain matters, going back to an ex, getting a piercing that you told them not to get, I'm not talking about that, but this here, Pregnancy is not something (imo) you should leave your daughter to think for themselves. IMO, again, parents, aunts, friends need to be involved, at least the parent, again, as you stated in your last post, this is a serious topic/manner before she just up and make her own decision.
Yall with this she's grown and it's her body, and didn't even have a conversation with your daughter (not you) or the father of the child and his parents.
If it serious, then it need to be taken serious which means that everybody, all parties need to have 'many' conversations about the situation.
This part was not mentioned in nobody's post but mines. IF you all deem this to be a serious thing, then act as such. That whole "it's her body" is not serious talk...
That reads to me as if, she can wake up after finding out she's pregnant and rush down to the clinic and abort the baby, without discussing "this serious matter" with the child's father, her parents AND HIS PARENTS (in which women some do without telling anybody other than a bestie)
Let's not say it's serious and then throw in some "it's her choice and her body" Serious things/matters usually get feedback and opinions from others.
Is this a serious matter? Do you think this ordeal is serious? or is it as simple as saying "it's her body" her body will be changing? etc as you and others have stated?
It's my party I can do what I wanna do? Do you think if someone is sayin that phrase out loud, they are thinking in a serious manner?
I asked questions to create content and to also make folks think on what they are stating in these threads and if they would truly practice it if it came to their front door. ( I highly doubt that they practice what they preach)
No, I wouldn't have a woman abort any kid
I know the effects that it can have on women mental. We so concerned about women, then why nobody brings that part up.
Folks are so for aborting kids on here but never discuss the aftermath when aborting a kid or having many abortions. What type of woman is created after she aborts her kids
Would you want your daughter to wake up on a Friday after finding out she's pregnant and abort your grandchild? or would you want to share your opinions, you and your wife with her, and tell her about the pros and cons etc
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