US Aggression against Venezuela

VulcanRaven said:
Sad that I am on China's side. All you orange cock suckers who voted for this tyrant are responsible for this mess. This does nothing for Americans and it hurts our position in this world. I do not like China's gov, but the U.S has the worst gov right now. It is not that orange piece of shits right to takeover a country, kidnap its president and tell them what to do with their resources. Hopefully this will be the undoing of these trash Republicans once that orange clown is finally gone for good. Look fuck both parties, but Reps are the worst right now and we all need to actually vote for people who have our best interests in mind. Worrying about immigrants, DEI, culture wars and what gender someone is is not important and lead to all this. I care about paying bills, healthcare, human rights, affordable prices, cost of living, mental health and a good economy. You know the shit that actually matters. None of this has addressed any issues in our country and capitalists like the orange sack of shit has been the only ones who profited. You MAGA dickriders on this site do not even know why you voted for the orange goblin. I hope yall join him in ell fuck it.
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Crazy pre election you couldn't escape "eggs are too high. We need lower prices on groceries" to the prices continuing to rise but now all of a sudden it's not a major concern and you hear little nothing about it
 
BlackRain said:
Lol nobody believes this was some random decision. The backstory isn't being hidden at all. Which is why the reaction is what it is.

But here's a succinct breakdown
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She started in 1998,

US invested into the country well before 1998, Standard Oil, predecessor of Exxon) Gulf Oil which became Chervon.

1960s, US was the largest foreign investor in the country's petroleum sector.

So that means that the US been had their hands on that oil since the early 1900s

I believe ole boy got into office, changed the Constitution, ran the U.S. folks/investors out after being paid, got greedy, kicked them folks out, started using their plans, the US infrastructure, and didn't pay the US. Ran the country into the ground etc.

Trump sees it as this oil being the US, off the simple fact that the US were ones getting it outta the ground because the country didn't have the funds to do so.. Ole boy got greedy and biggidy and Trump wanted to remind him that it was the US that made him and it was the US that helped drill the oil to begin with...etc.

Again, I just don't think Trump just woke up and said, let me go and take this man oil, yea yall hate him..he's a bad man, but let's unpack this situation from the very beginning and see who were the key players in this
 
Knock_Twice said:
What is the history is this situation? What's the backstory to all of this?

I know folks wanna believe that Trump roll over out of bed and decided to do this.... It's a backstory that's not being told to folks..I

Buddy just aint wake up and say, Let's take these folks oil....sounds too much like a false narrative.

I don't recall Venezuela having the oil companies to even do any drilling for their own oil.... Did the country have any outside investors from Trumps camp or America? And some kind of deal fell through....

I know folks are emo, but I like to dive into history and the origin of things and see why folks do things for a reason....
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Venezuela oil is owned by their government they are socialist. America is anti socialism and he literally just took the oil. Iraq was over oil. Vietnam was over rubber and shit.
 
AP4.0 said:
so Tay gets "that's fair" but you'll give me scenario after scenario of extreme (and most time unplausible) rebuttals to fit your narrative you on??

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I gave Seasnake a that's fair.....sometimes you don't have to go back and forth with folks, it's their opinion.

You'll be getting the "that's fair"

I've given Monk the same response and others....I've always stated this...man I've gave you a "that's fair" response and I've also made them folks explain their position. I did that with Tay in the previous exchange lol..what is you whining about lol

I wanted to read more on this situation, I understand that most folks are looking at this without doing their homework like most, including me...so I wanted to gain some more understanding about this situation.

Them citizens are happy, and folks are over here mad that these folks are happy, doesn't add up with me, so I wanted to do my own research and from my readings, I understand why Trump is doing what he's doing. Right or Wrong, I can see his POV without having emotions.
 
SeaSnake said:
Venezuela oil is owned by their government they are socialist. America is anti socialism and he literally just took the oil. Iraq was over oil. Vietnam was over rubber and shit.
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Start from the beginning of the story. Let's take it back to how this situation started bro. Let's go with facts and not emotions to determine why this man is so call taking their oil.

Like you told me in the other thread, Google it...or use the other shit Chat GPT or some shit...or read a book
 
Knock_Twice said:
Start from the beginning of the story. Let's take it back to how this situation started bro. Let's go with facts and not emotions to determine why this man is so call taking their oil.

Like you told me in the other thread, Google it...or use the other shit Chat GPT or some shit...or read a book
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Lol at so called. Trump his and administration said it and you still don't believe it?
 
Knock_Twice said:
I gave Seasnake a that's fair.....sometimes you don't have to go back and forth with folks, it's their opinion.

You'll be getting the "that's fair"

I've given Monk the same response and others....I've always stated this...man I've gave you a "that's fair" response and I've also made them folks explain their position. I did that with Tay in the previous exchange lol..what is you whining about lol

I wanted to read more on this situation, I understand that most folks are looking at this without doing their homework like most, including me...so I wanted to gain some more understanding about this situation.

Them citizens are happy, and folks are over here mad that these folks are happy, doesn't add up with me, so I wanted to do my own research and from my readings, I understand why Trump is doing what he's doing. Right or Wrong, I can see his POV without having emotions.
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How is this US oil if it isn't on US native soil?
 
TheNightKing said:
Basically at one point in history, I think about 30 years ago, US oil companies had contracts and infrastructure to extract oil from Venezuela. Then Venezuela said get the fuck out.

Now Trump is a pay for play type president so the oil companies said hey, get us back into Venezuela since they have the largest oil reserve in the world.

Trump said bet. Started the narco-terrorist narrative as a basis for targeting Venezuela. And now openly admits it was for the oil.

Yes Maduro was bad and it was good to get him out, but the only people that will benefit from this are the oil companies and Trump and his cronies. Definitely not the people of Venezuela and definitely not us as US citizens.

You would think “hey, more oil (supply), lower prices”. But that shit will be all profit taking and no lower prices.
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I believe ole boy pissed on those deals that were in place before he took power. Now those deals could have been slave deals that the US drew up to the country and whoever was in power at the time in that country signed them....then old boy came into power and said, we can do the shit our saves and pissed on them deals and said fuck giving the US their % and fuck those contracts... and made deals with other countries....without paying back the US.. The other U.S Presidents may have wanted to get involved but was too scared to go after dude since he's now powerful but Trump being Trump, nobody is go outpower him and he wants to make the US strong again, decided to go after this dude...

I think that's how it went and now Trump wants to collect his 200 dollars, so he's removing the folks that (ole boy) that pissed on those deals that may have been in placed.
 
AP4.0 said:
How is this US oil if it isn't on US native soil?
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If the US companies are using their equipment, dollars to drill and pull from outta the earth and have made deals to do so, then I would think that it's their oil.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I wanna know why do you think it's not their oil when they are the ones whose investing into getting it out.

Technically it's both our ass nigga
 
Knock_Twice said:
If the US companies are using their equipment, dollars to drill and pull from outta the earth and have made deals to do so, then I would think that it's their oil.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I wanna know why do you think it's not their oil when they are the ones whose investing into getting it out.

Technically it's both our ass nigga
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Is it on us soil? No? Then it's not theirs.
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
Venezuela ain’t gonna fight for their shit?
They had a harder time catching Escobar
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That what's puzzling me, the people over there are glad ole boy is outta the paint, and couldn't care less about the oil from what I've been reading/seeing.

I do not see the majority of the people demonizing Trump for taking their leader. Only here in the states that's where the energy is coming from, mostly emotional folks...cough dems....in which Biden had more money on dude's head .

That's why I am looking at it from the lens of those citizens there and the way that they are moving along about this situation.
 
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