HBO IT: Welcome to Derry 🎈

Added to Calendar: 10-26-25

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So I read the chapter of the book that talked about the Bradley Gang. It was short. I wont spoil anything. It doesn't really seem like an interesting story to tell but im curious how the show will tell it. I guess it just shows how that town has it's own fucked up issues even without pennywise's help. The intro of the show, shows images of how the gang met their end.
 
Finally finished this this morning

Shit was fire!!!

IDC if pennywise can time travel. I thought it was a nice addition to the plot
 
Currently watching the og movie from the 90's. The joint they gave me many nightmares as a kid. That made me side eye clowns. Haven't watched this since as a young teen at best? Watching with adults eyes as the first time. This is a tough watch, lol. They skipped on character building. This shit was rushed. One of the few times where the remake is way better.
 
loud-ninja said:
Currently watching the og movie from the 90's. The joint they gave me many nightmares as a kid. That made me side eye clowns. Haven't watched this since as a young teen at best? Watching with adults eyes as the first time. This is a tough watch, lol. They skipped on character building. This shit was rushed. One of the few times where the remake is way better.
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I convinced my sister to watch the show

She tried to watch and thought the first ep was too dark lol

She finished yesterday and texted me she was glad she watched it and complimented the story building and the many layers

She also was pissed off at the white people😂😂
 
So I finished reading the book. Great fucking read. Think that was my favorite book I ever read. Written very well.

I read the sex part with the loser club. Shit was worse than I thought. What made it bad is that they were crawling through pipes of sewage and waste. This happened after they fought IT for the second time as kids. They had open wounds and was bleeding, while crawling through decades of literal shit. Then she thought "let's have sex in the sewers , while we are covered in vlood amd shit because I love all of you and dont want to forget yall". They all should have died from an infection, lol
 
Also comparing the book to the show, I dont think the show or movies explained the deadlights and the physical body of IT correctly. Or maybe they chose to do it their own way in the show and movies. Not mad at it.

The deadlights, ITs true form, stays in the macroverse. When it takes a physical form, it has to obey the laws of that form. When it takes a physical form, it also takes in some of the weaknesses. That includes pain and fear. IT never really had to plan until IT met the loser club. I think that part should have been explained a little bit better in the show or movies.
 
loud-ninja said:
Also comparing the book to the show, I dont think the show or movies explained the deadlights and the physical body of IT correctly. Or maybe they chose to do it their own way in the show and movies. Not mad at it.

The deadlights, ITs true form, stays in the macroverse. When it takes a physical form, it has to obey the laws of that form. When it takes a physical form, it also takes in some of the weaknesses. That includes pain and fear. IT never really had to plan until IT met the loser club. I think that part should have been explained a little bit better in the show or movies.
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Oh this is fascinating
 
Just finished rewatching "IT Chapter 2". Now I have fresh memories of the movies, show, and book.

In the 2017 movie, they did mention that IT has to obey the laws of whatever form it takes. What they didnt mention at all is that IT is trapped in Derry, but the show does. The movie also never mentioned the shards in the movie. They killed IT physically. So it seems they just added that for a big plot in the show. I also wish they had Bill's wife go to Derry, like they did in the book and 90's movie. Pennywise kidnapped her and used her as bait. That showed that IT, had to plan for the first time in it's existence because it felt fear and pain for the first time. It feared it could actually die.


I think the 90's movie was a little bit more true to the book than the 2017 movie. To a certain degree.

Spoiler for book:
In the book, IT never left Derry because it didnt like change or surprise. Derry was it's kill pin and the people were cattle. It just wants to sleep and eat.

The book ending was much sadder than any of the movie endings. After they defeated IT, the downtown part of Derry collapsed. IT lived under downtown Derry. Killed many people as the city halfway sunk into the ground. Also, after the final battle as adults, the Losers lost their memory of all of it over time, including their friendship of each other. The words in Mike's journal was erasing it's self.

Leaving out the turtle in the movies wasnt a big deal. He had like 15 sentences in the whole book. Only thing he did was give Bill a tip on how to use the ritual . There was another unknown being helping the Losers. That is what Pennywise really feared. This "Another" is suspected of creating the turtle but existed outside of even the macroverse. The being used the kids as agents and gave them "powers" to fight IT. Turning regular tools, like Eddie's inhaler, into something that could hurt IT, as long as they believed it to be true.
 
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loud-ninja said:
Just finished rewatching "IT Chapter 2". Now I have fresh memories of the movies, show, and book.

In the 2017 movie, they did mention that IT has to obey the laws of whatever form it takes. What they didnt mention at all is that IT is trapped in Derry, but the show does. The movie also never mentioned the shards in the movie. They killed IT physically. So it seems they just added that for a big plot in the show. I also wish they had Bill's wife go to Derry, like they did in the book and 90's movie. Pennywise kidnapped her and used her as bait. That showed that IT, had to plan for the first time in it's existence because it felt fear and pain for the first time. It feared it could actually die.


I think the 90's movie was a little bit more true to the book than the 2017 movie. To a certain degree.

Spoiler for book:
In the book, IT never left Derry because it didnt like change or surprise. Derry was it's kill pin and the people were cattle. It just wants to sleep and eat.

The book ending was much sadder than any of the movie endings. After they defeated IT, the downtown part of Derry collapsed. IT lived under downtown Derry. Killed many people as the city halfway sunk into the ground. Also, after the final battle as adults, the Losers lost their memory of all of it over time, including their friendship of each other. The words in Mike's journal was erasing it's self.

Leaving out the turtle in the movies wasnt a big deal. He had like 15 sentences in the whole book. Only thing he did was give Bill a tip on how to use the ritual . There was another unknown being helping the Losers. That is what Pennywise really feared. This "Another" is suspected of creating the turtle but existed outside of even the macroverse. The being used the kids as agents and gave them "powers" to fight IT. Turning regular tools, like Eddie's inhaler, into something that could hurt IT, as long as they believed it to be true.
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I thought IT just stayed there because it was a buffet? IT's trapped?
 
RandomOne said:
I thought IT just stayed there because it was a buffet? IT's trapped?
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Lol, that was the main plot in the show. The natives used the shards to keep Pennywise contained in that area.

The book, he could roam where ever but chose Derry as his killing ground because it is simple and IT doesnt like change or surprise
 
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