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why is the haitian revolution not considered a great moment in black history?

Yeah Haiti soil is wrecked,you can see it from satellite images from outer space.



Yeah, I've seen this video awhile ago.

If you've never been to Dominican Republic or Haiti this video still doesn't do it Justice. Especially if you've seen the difference seaside. It's a vast difference that's very sobering to how bad things really are. Just typing this out makes me very upset....... you can literally see how barren Haiti is of vegetation and trees, not to mention the trash in the water and land...

I'm very surprised not many wealthy black folks haven't tried to help build up some of these islands that's mainly inhabited by folks that look like us. I know I don't have nearly enough to invest like I would want but the resources and connections some of these wealthy black people have could do a ton of good. Not too mention it could and most likely would be a great investment.
 
I'm very surprised not many wealthy black folks haven't tried to help build up some of these islands that's mainly inhabited by folks that look like us.......... Not too mention it could and most likely would be a great investment.

Why are you surprised?
 
most black americans show little to no respect for the Haitian Revolution..... Haitians fought for their rights against French slavemasters from 1791 to 1804... Jean-Jacques Dessalines & Toussaint L'overture should be held in the same regard as your most famous black leaders in America....... when Haitians became free black Americans were still picking cotton in the white mans plantations.... when you black americans talk about black history month pay homage to the Haitian revolution first & foremost.

This is bs
 
Why are you surprised?

I guess........ I try and hope for the best...

I mean even if most are about themselves and don't care about others, they have to see the business potential in helping build up some of these smaller nations in need. Right??

I know it isn't as simple as I'm making it out to be due to all the political red tape and the real possibility of losing a good portion of money investing in these nations but it never ceases to amaze me how so many black folks take vacations (or pay big money for anything not owned by folks like us) to islands and pay crazy amounts of money.

I've been to a decent amount of the islands in the "Caribbean" and a decent amount of the folks that own stuff in these countries don't look like the natives if you catch my drift.. they are living there, helping get laws passed, making it a better place to live all while making money for themselves and the places.
 
Yeah, I've seen this video awhile ago.

If you've never been to Dominican Republic or Haiti this video still doesn't do it Justice. Especially if you've seen the difference seaside. It's a vast difference that's very sobering to how bad things really are. Just typing this out makes me very upset....... you can literally see how barren Haiti is of vegetation and trees, not to mention the trash in the water and land...

I'm very surprised not many wealthy black folks haven't tried to help build up some of these islands that's mainly inhabited by folks that look like us. I know I don't have nearly enough to invest like I would want but the resources and connections some of these wealthy black people have could do a ton of good. Not too mention it could and most likely would be a great investment.

I live in the Caribbean bruh. The Haitian govts over the years are corrupt af. The govt is the main problem imo
 
Of course It's obviously mostly about Americans but you also learn about black folks from all over the diaspora during black history, that's my experience.

For example The Congolese nationalist and pan-Africanist - Patrice Lumumba who played a big part in the change of the DR Congo from a colony of Belgium into an independent republic.

Patrice-Lumumba.jpg
 
I live in the Caribbean bruh. The Haitian govts over the years are corrupt af. The govt is the main problem imo

I hear you. I’m not naive enough to believe it isn’t a lot of corruption going on. Lol.

where in the Caribbean do you live?
 
Of course It's obviously mostly about Americans but you also learn about black folks from all over the diaspora during black history, that's my experience.

For example The Congolese nationalist and pan-Africanist - Patrice Lumumba who played a big part in the change of the DR Congo from a colony of Belgium into an independent republic.

Patrice-Lumumba.jpg
Then was murdered by the CIA basically
 
Here's one reason.

While it is admirable that the Haitians fought for their freedom, their country is a mess. The reason their country is a mess is because they never established a stock market in the 200 years that they've been free. A stock market is something like the New York Stock Exchange, or in Japan they have the Tokyo Stock Exchange (TSE), or in the UK they have the London Stock Exchange.

A stock exchange is an easy way for international, institutional investors to exchange money, or to invest in another nation's economy.

For example, if you live in Australia and you think the American economy is doing really well you can invest in the Dow Jones Industrial 30, or the S&P 500. Those index funds mirror the best American corporations. Every nation has an index, which is basically a list of the top companies in that nation. The Dow Jones average is the top 30 American corporations, the S&P 500 is a composite of the top 500 American corporations. An Australian or Brazilian investor doesn't have to do any research if they want to invest in America. All they have to do is buy shares of one of our index funds.


Haiti doesn't have a stock market and thus there's no way to invest in their economy.

Think about it, if you could invest in the best manufacturing companies in Haiti you could invest, say, $5 million, and they could use that money to buy supplies and build their business. Or you could invest in a Haitian tech company, or a Haitian retail chain. In the absence of a stock market those investments are impossible.


So to answer the thread starter's question. The Haitian revolution was over 200 years ago but they haven't finished. They haven't established a stock market so people can't invest in their country.

I guess the paradox is that since you can't invest in Haiti's economy they have no debt whereas in America we sell government bonds to anybody that will buy them. As a result our National Debt is over $27 Trillion at the date of this writing




So we're $27 Trillion in debt and Haiti has no debt because they don't sell government bonds. So in one way, Haiti has more money than we do when you factor in the National debt.
i truly respect your intelligent response.
 
Theres a ton of reasons. One reason is that world powers made sure to keep Haiti under economic embargos and the country never developed. At the moment they are one of the poorest and most under developed countries in the world.

They dont have money to market the country. No department of tourism. The list goes on.
it's funny you mention tourism ........ i've never hear black americans not once when wanting to vacation in the Carribean mention Haiti..... they say Puerto Rico,Jamaica,Dominican Republic maybe even Cuba but never Haiti i wonder why?
 
most black americans show little to no respect for the Haitian Revolution..... Haitians fought for their rights against French slavemasters from 1791 to 1804... Jean-Jacques Dessalines & Toussaint L'overture should be held in the same regard as your most famous black leaders in America....... when Haitians became free black Americans were still picking cotton in the white mans plantations.... when you black americans talk about black history month pay homage to the Haitian revolution first & foremost.

So like are you talking about in school because all the adults that know history respect Haiti we literally had rebellions abd they did not want slaves here learning about the Haitian Revolution. But for foreign blacks outside of Malcolm and Martin do y’all be up on our history in detail?
 
it's funny you mention tourism ........ i've never hear black americans not once when wanting to vacation in the Carribean mention Haiti..... they say Puerto Rico,Jamaica,Dominican Republic maybe even Cuba but never Haiti i wonder why?
Respectfully...

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