Trump unveils 'Platinum Plan' for Black Americans...Tags Ice Cube into the ring


there are hundreds is not thousands of other black men that were killed in even worse ways. not counting the women who might have been thru a violation first and the kids who was robbed of growing up teen years puberty.

but George Floyd?

this shit makes me sick.

ok , ill give up my stance.

i wasnt taking the country uprising seriously because of all the other black men who died who were not mentioned or taken into account. so they lives wasnt a spark because we didnt see it first hand?

i have been tired and doing what i can to help those who are in them streets and doing the work.

so when GF situation happened....i was more pissed at people allowing this to be a spark.

this shit been a fire. a conflagration roaring thru our community destroying all in its way.'

niggas should have been angry...since we live it everyday right? we see it everyday right?
when did people get comfortable enough to let that be the spark?

thats just me.....sorry for my rant. but sometimes people are full of shit and fake.

its been a disconnection.

but where?
 
biden or trump will win for sure next month right?

So yall mad that cube presented a plan to both sides to see what they had to offer? If nothing else it puts the spotlight on the democrats to do something. Wait till after the election = fuck yall, you'll vote for us anyway.

Yet biden has historically worked with staunch racists in the republican party to create bills to lock our asses up and keep us out of their schools, and yall don't wanna talk about it

Our biggest physical threat right now are these race soldiers and biden has committed to giving them more resources, and yall don't wanna talk about it

He ain't apologized for shit he did, doesn't regret it at all and his running mate said out her own mouth she ain't doing anything specifically for black ppl. But yall don't wanna talk about it

Instead, yall plan is to just give votes away and hope shit gets better. Too much emotional action and not enough strategic thinking.

The democrats wanna talk about hot sauce, who their favorite rapper is and parade around with cardi b, meanwhile promising us jack shit (but yall capin hard af for em) and yall have the audacity to talk about who's being used?
This sums up my thoughts up and down. Latinos, Jews, Gays, Women, all can ask and demand action on policies, but......not us. We're supposed to just sit down, shut up, or dance to entertain them.

Dr. King worked with Einsenhower, Nixon, JFK, and LBJ. He didn't do that because he liked them or endorsed them. He did it to make things better. We in an age where we can't do that anymore We just have to hope and pray one party gives us crumbs it seems, and not even plays both to get better offers. Dumb
 
All of those things are true. I see way more negative post against Kamala than Mike Pence. There's way more negative post against Democrats than any of those crooked, racist, piece of shit Republicans in The Senate.

Anytime somebody says anything bad about Republicans on this site it's always met with a "Yeah but Democrats....."

That's Republican brainwashing and when I call it out you niggas get defensive and say we're just shucking and jiving for Democrats. You get defensive and make false accusations.

Plenty of us have dragged the Democrats. Hell the whole Democratic primary thread was a fucking bloodbath. Every single democratic candidate was catching strays in there. We were *clears throat* holding them accountable. Now we're past the Primaries and 2 weeks away from the General Election and niggas are still trying to make weak ass hold them accountable arguments as if we weren't already having that exact discussion for the last 10 fucking months. Where were you when we were holding all of the candidates and voters accountable in The Primaries? No you wanna come out and say we're all being blind to democrats. No nigga people like you are the ones being blind. You think you smart sitting back and critiquing shit right now when you should've been putting in more work way back when it mattered. Now you wanna cry about black people supporting Democrats but y'all be the same niggas that ain't got shit to say when we're vetting the candidates to even get to this point.

Take your own advise and hold yourself accountable.
It is widely understood that the republicans are against us. What's understood doesn't have to be repeated constantly.. it's preaching to the choir at a certain point

so some of us call out the democrats to make you LOYALISTS understand that the democrats are also trash. No lies detected

Biden just said hes giving 300 million to the police. Kamala sat there and bragged about not doing anything specific for YOUR people. "Nooo"

Tell me how those 2 stances are different than Republicans????? ?They're not.

You need to stop punching down immediately

Stop lashing out at people who feel betrayed

You need to punch UP and ask your beloved democrats why they make YOUR people feel this way and do better for 2024
 
This discussion deserves its own thread

They've been taking full advantage of these goofy ass, daddy issue havin, self hatin, wanna have white woman status ass cancers in our community (and their male coon ass peers)

These out for self ass coons and mammys gotta go
cosign ether and GOAT.

at the end of the day most men just want a beautiful feminine black woman.

the chicks you speak about want black men that have the lives of the white men that only see them as a fetish.
so many things i could go in on these types of women. if they cant see how black men are held back and dont have the same privileges as these white ballers they secretly want, yet compare us to them. fuck em.
got a few chicks on youtube that says shit like this.....like how the white man protects his woman and provides for his women and conquer for his women all will shitting on black men and questioning our manhood and ability to take care of our community.

shit is crazy out here.
 
biden or trump will win for sure next month right?

Yes

So yall mad that cube presented a plan to both sides to see what they had to offer? If nothing else it puts the spotlight on the democrats to do something. Wait till after the election = fuck yall, you'll vote for us anyway.

Yes I am mad. Joe Biden already had a plan and it's way more direct and substantial and obtainable than what Ice Cube presented. Ice Cube's plan doesn't put the spotlight on shit. It's a fucking distraction. Do you not understand that when The Trump Administration leaked that they were working with Ice Cube voting had already started? So you expect a campaign to shift their messaging to appeal to poorly written policy for a specific voting block this close to the election?

Yet biden has historically worked with staunch racists in the republican party to create bills to lock our asses up and keep us out of their schools, and yall don't wanna talk about it

Biden has worked with racist. Trump is Racist. Big difference. And how do people not wanna talk about the Crime Bill? That's all niggas wanna talk about when they bring up Joe Biden. Joe Biden has even talked about it himself. Nigga he literally talked about it last night. He explained why he did it, where it went wrong, and what needs to be done moving forward. This is another attempt to make it seem like niggas are sleeping on something when in reality it has been widely discussed out in the open.

Our biggest physical threat right now are these race soldiers and biden has committed to giving them more resources, and yall don't wanna talk about it

Once again you are cherry picking and you're also being misleading. Nobody is ignoring what Biden has said about law enforcement except you and people like you who are not explaining what he said. He wants to give law enforcement more money so that it can be reformed to include things like mental health professionals on the force, a police force that is more proportionate to it's community as far as race and religion, less money spent on equipment that they don't need, and a reformed justice system for prosecuting cops. yet another issue that is actually being talked about that you are saying is not.

He ain't apologized for shit he did, doesn't regret it at all and his running mate said out her own mouth she ain't doing anything specifically for black ppl. But yall don't wanna talk about it

What has he not apologized for? Joe Biden has literally stood on the stage on almost every Town Hall he's had and addressed everything people have been critical on him for. You just don't wanna accept it and that's fine. You don't have to accept it but you're lying saying that he hasn't apologized. He has.

Instead, yall plan is to just give votes away and hope shit gets better. Too much emotional action and not enough strategic thinking.

Strategic Thinking?? Explain this.....


The democrats wanna talk about hot sauce, who their favorite rapper is and parade around with cardi b, meanwhile promising us jack shit (but yall capin hard af for em) and yall have the audacity to talk about who's being used?

So The Democrats are talking about things associated with black people because the majority of black people are............you guessed it, Democrats. I mean, if I'm talking to a bunch of farmers in Iowa I'm not gonna ask them about Freddie Gibbs new album, or a new pair of Air Maxes. I'm probably gonna talk about agriculture.

You're also trying to diss democrats for talking about these things when there are actual black Democrats. Cory Booker is a black man and a Democrat. he's dating Rosario Dawson. Is he not allowed to talk about movies or black movies? If he does talk about them is he pandering or is he just being.....black? You're attacking black people for being black. You sound silly.
 
You need to punch UP and ask your beloved democrats why they make YOUR people feel this way and do better for 2024

Democrats aren't making you feel shit.

What I don't understand with al of you anti Democrat niggas is why you spend so much energy talking about them. What they don't do. What they do wrong. How they're fake. Yet black people have never built a substantial alternative. Why?

Is it really that hard for black people to have a substantial alternative to Democrats? Y'all niggas love to point out how other groups have substantial alternatives wo why don't we?

Is it because The Democrats aren't this anti black machine that you paint them to be or are you niggas just too dense to have a real alternative besides arguing the same talking points every year?
 
There are niggas in here who have less questions and concerns about Ice Cube's "Plan" than Joe Biden's

Ice Cube releases a plan backed with Trump - At least he's trying. We need shit specifically for us.

Joe Biden releases plan months ago specifically for black people - It ain't specific. Crime Bill. It has other minorities in it and we don't wanna share anything with anybody else. Only blacks. Crime Bill. That shit is hollow. It's a bunch of nothing. Crime Bill.
 
y'all make my head hurt
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now get cha ass back in the fight
 
There are niggas in here who have less questions and concerns about Ice Cube's "Plan" than Joe Biden's

Ice Cube releases a plan backed with Trump - At least he's trying. We need shit specifically for us.

Joe Biden releases plan months ago specifically for black people - It ain't specific. Crime Bill. It has other minorities in it and we don't wanna share anything with anybody else. Only blacks. Crime Bill. That shit is hollow. It's a bunch of nothing. Crime Bill.
this is why we are not taken seriously.
 
biden or trump will win for sure next month right?

So yall mad that cube presented a plan to both sides to see what they had to offer? If nothing else it puts the spotlight on the democrats to do something. Wait till after the election = fuck yall, you'll vote for us anyway.

Yet biden has historically worked with staunch racists in the republican party to create bills to lock our asses up and keep us out of their schools, and yall don't wanna talk about it

Our biggest physical threat right now are these race soldiers and biden has committed to giving them more resources, and yall don't wanna talk about it

He ain't apologized for shit he did, doesn't regret it at all and his running mate said out her own mouth she ain't doing anything specifically for black ppl. But yall don't wanna talk about it

Instead, yall plan is to just give votes away and hope shit gets better. Too much emotional action and not enough strategic thinking.

The democrats wanna talk about hot sauce, who their favorite rapper is and parade around with cardi b, meanwhile promising us jack shit (but yall capin hard af for em) and yall have the audacity to talk about who's being used?

It's not about Cube catching heat simply for presenting the idea to Trump. Its presenting it as if something would actually get done as if Trump truly gives a fuck about Black people. Literally just a week ago a story dropped about in 2016 Trumps team was putting things in motion to actively discourage black folks from voting...and now all of a sudden the "platinum plan" is supposed to be his plan? That's the issue people have with Cube right now. It's just not something people trust is being done in good faith from this administration and rightfully so. They're still doing things to actively discourage Black people from participating in the process yet creating policies or taking away things where we will feel the brunt of the decisions being made. If you wanna talk strategy then aligning yourself with someone who is currently in the process of fucking your people over ain't the brightest strategy to have.

And it also harkens back to something that came up alot with folks in 2016 who were on the "both sides are trash" argument and saying black.folks need to sit out til something is offered specifically to us. As if that sitting out will shield you from the effects of what the election results will be. If nothing else these past 7 months of this pandemic should have shown how much of a ripple effect shit has and that Black folks are always hit the hardest when it goes bad. So thinking that sitting out will somehow prove a point that politicians arent already aware of is a losing game.
 
Yes



Yes I am mad. Joe Biden already had a plan and it's way more direct and substantial and obtainable than what Ice Cube presented. Ice Cube's plan doesn't put the spotlight on shit. It's a fucking distraction. Do you not understand that when The Trump Administration leaked that they were working with Ice Cube voting had already started? So you expect a campaign to shift their messaging to appeal to poorly written policy for a specific voting block this close to the election?



Biden has worked with racist. Trump is Racist. Big difference. And how do people not wanna talk about the Crime Bill? That's all niggas wanna talk about when they bring up Joe Biden. Joe Biden has even talked about it himself. Nigga he literally talked about it last night. He explained why he did it, where it went wrong, and what needs to be done moving forward. This is another attempt to make it seem like niggas are sleeping on something when in reality it has been widely discussed out in the open.



Once again you are cherry picking and you're also being misleading. Nobody is ignoring what Biden has said about law enforcement except you and people like you who are not explaining what he said. He wants to give law enforcement more money so that it can be reformed to include things like mental health professionals on the force, a police force that is more proportionate to it's community as far as race and religion, less money spent on equipment that they don't need, and a reformed justice system for prosecuting cops. yet another issue that is actually being talked about that you are saying is not.



What has he not apologized for? Joe Biden has literally stood on the stage on almost every Town Hall he's had and addressed everything people have been critical on him for. You just don't wanna accept it and that's fine. You don't have to accept it but you're lying saying that he hasn't apologized. He has.



Strategic Thinking?? Explain this.....




So The Democrats are talking about things associated with black people because the majority of black people are............you guessed it, Democrats. I mean, if I'm talking to a bunch of farmers in Iowa I'm not gonna ask them about Freddie Gibbs new album, or a new pair of Air Maxes. I'm probably gonna talk about agriculture.

You're also trying to diss democrats for talking about these things when there are actual black Democrats. Cory Booker is a black man and a Democrat. he's dating Rosario Dawson. Is he not allowed to talk about movies or black movies? If he does talk about them is he pandering or is he just being.....black? You're attacking black people for being black. You sound silly.


Ok Mr. Sassy
First, you emotional as hell

With that said, let's get to it

1. You mad that other black people making more proposals for black progress? How stupid is that. End of the day, because you weak complacent negroes continue to vote democrat till you die, the only options we have are them and the reps. So I ask, does it really matter who we get our demands met by? The dems continue to do nothing and yall are cool with that because lets face it, yall are scared and hate looking the boogey man in the face. I read that so called biden plan (lift every voice, what a fucking sneak diss since it contained nothing specific for us) it's a typical nothing burger. Yall like to be lied to as long as it sounds good

2. You're either ignorant or purposely being obtuse. What did joe work with racists to accomplish? How many times I gotta tell yall asses to look at the work he did with them. Here's a hint, none of it was for our benefit. So if I got an old man that has not only said and done racist things, but put in racist work then he's just as racist as the piece of shit talking racist shit.

3.You really believe law enforcement can be reformed? LMAO. You really think all that money is for training and mental health for police? They've been getting BILLIONS (courtesy of obama and biden in most recent years) and what have they done with it? Shiny new tanks and weapons. Obviously that shit hasn't worked, they been trying to so called reform police through so called training and programs. Obviously it hasn't worked because you can't untrain hate. How dense are you?

4. Strategic thinking vs Emotional actions: Yall current endgame is getting trump out of office. Well what happens after that? Are yall holding the dems accountable and are you willing to take your vote elsewhere if they don't deliver? Cuz if not, it's a big waster of fucking time and all your doing is advancing the careers of ppl of blatantly give no fucks about you


5. I won't even waste my time with this one. There's a time for bullshittin and a time for business. When it's business time, don't talk to us about bullshit. Plain and simple.

The hilarity of it all, is that you mention attacking other black ppl while you in here attacking other black ppl cuz you capin for an old racist white man whos policies have more than likely locked up a family member, friend or someone you know over the war on drugs.

Funny, when the black community needed resources to fight the crack epidemic we got handcuffs and fucked up sentences, property forfeiture(wealth stealing).

But when his poor precious white community (including his own son) got hit with their own drug epidemic, he wants help and understanding.

How young are you lil fella?
 
It's not about Cube catching heat simply for presenting the idea to Trump. Its presenting it as if something would actually get done as if Trump truly gives a fuck about Black people. Literally just a week ago a story dropped about in 2016 Trumps team was putting things in motion to actively discourage black folks from voting...and now all of a sudden the "platinum plan" is supposed to be his plan? That's the issue people have with Cube right now. It's just not something people trust is being done in good faith from this administration and rightfully so. They're still doing things to actively discourage Black people from participating in the process yet creating policies or taking away things where we will feel the brunt of the decisions being made. If you wanna talk strategy then aligning yourself with someone who is currently in the process of fucking your people over ain't the brightest strategy to have.

And it also harkens back to something that came up alot with folks in 2016 who were on the "both sides are trash" argument and saying black.folks need to sit out til something is offered specifically to us. As if that sitting out will shield you from the effects of what the election results will be. If nothing else these past 7 months of this pandemic should have shown how much of a ripple effect shit has and that Black folks are always hit the hardest when it goes bad. So thinking that sitting out will somehow prove a point that politicians arent already aware of is a losing game.

Its all about continuing to cape for a party that gives not one single shit about doing anything for black ppl because they know that vote is already in the bag.

I truly want to know why yall fight for the dems as if they are you're own family memebers? I really don't understand it. (I have my own theory)

Politician do NOTHING out of the kindness of their own hearts, whether they be rep or dem or other. Politics are about business. You don't conduct good business by excepting poor service while paying a premium price for it. It's about negotiating. Yall don't even wanna negotiate, with either party. Just vote dem so we can go wake up the next day and say "whew glad that shit is over"
 
Cube plan has no weight and is going to get lost in the shuffle with the election. As for all the talk about Dems vs Reps, voting neither isn't an option and patting ourselves on the back after election day isn't enough. Once this election is over, we need to put together a real strategy for black political power that stands separate from Dems and Republicans.
 
Its all about continuing to cape for a party that gives not one single shit about doing anything for black ppl because they know that vote is already in the bag.

I truly want to know why yall fight for the dems as if they are you're own family memebers? I really don't understand it. (I have my own theory)

Politician do NOTHING out of the kindness of their own hearts, whether they be rep or dem or other. Politics are about business. You don't conduct good business by excepting poor service while paying a premium price for it. It's about negotiating. Yall don't even wanna negotiate, with either party. Just vote dem so we can go wake up the next day and say "whew glad that shit is over"

I don't fight for the dems. I've said it before...my main issue with the criticism of dems is it's often done as a "what aboutism" to criticisms of the right. Also people who have clear disdain for the right and left, yet have no other alternative but "I'm gonna take my ball and go home". Then there's just the general lack of understanding when people say shit like "latinos the gays etc got things done specifically for them. What about us" as if those groups dont encompass more than white people. So when people say they want something specific for Black people and Black people only that's gonna be an uphill battle because it's gonna be hard to pass something that doesnt in some way benefit American society as a whole and not just 1 specific group of people. This goes back to another point I've made before about people identifying and falling into more than 1 group/category. It's why white women managed to benefit from affirmative action the way they were. Because even though they're white they're still women and women of all races hold a lower rung in society than men do as a whole. So even though affirmative action was created and passed to specifically help Black people others still managed and continue to benefit from it.

Yes people have the right to voice their displeasure but we also live in a solutions oriented world so if all you can do is bitch about what the dems aren't doing and how they're failing then what alternative do you have? What are you presenting as a viable alternative? I'm not against another option at all it's just extremely rare somebody actually presents one.
 
It's not about Cube catching heat simply for presenting the idea to Trump. Its presenting it as if something would actually get done as if Trump truly gives a fuck about Black people. Literally just a week ago a story dropped about in 2016 Trumps team was putting things in motion to actively discourage black folks from voting...and now all of a sudden the "platinum plan" is supposed to be his plan? That's the issue people have with Cube right now. It's just not something people trust is being done in good faith from this administration and rightfully so. They're still doing things to actively discourage Black people from participating in the process yet creating policies or taking away things where we will feel the brunt of the decisions being made. If you wanna talk strategy then aligning yourself with someone who is currently in the process of fucking your people over ain't the brightest strategy to have.

And it also harkens back to something that came up alot with folks in 2016 who were on the "both sides are trash" argument and saying black.folks need to sit out til something is offered specifically to us. As if that sitting out will shield you from the effects of what the election results will be. If nothing else these past 7 months of this pandemic should have shown how much of a ripple effect shit has and that Black folks are always hit the hardest when it goes bad. So thinking that sitting out will somehow prove a point that politicians arent already aware of is a losing game.
kinda of like them people who say tear down the system...not realizing that it will all fall on us.
 
I don't fight for the dems. I've said it before...my main issue with the criticism of dems is it's often done as a "what aboutism" to criticisms of the right. Also people who have clear disdain for the right and left, yet have no other alternative but "I'm gonna take my ball and go home". Then there's just the general lack of understanding when people say shit like "latinos the gays etc got things done specifically for them. What about us" as if those groups dont encompass more than white people. So when people say they want something specific for Black people and Black people only that's gonna be an uphill battle because it's gonna be hard to pass something that doesnt in some way benefit American society as a whole and not just 1 specific group of people. This goes back to another point I've made before about people identifying and falling into more than 1 group/category. It's why white women managed to benefit from affirmative action the way they were. Because even though they're white they're still women and women of all races hold a lower rung in society than men do as a whole. So even though affirmative action was created and passed to specifically help Black people others still managed and continue to benefit from it.

Yes people have the right to voice their displeasure but we also live in a solutions oriented world so if all you can do is bitch about what the dems aren't doing and how they're failing then what alternative do you have? What are you presenting as a viable alternative? I'm not against another option at all it's just extremely rare somebody actually presents one.

There's no what aboutisms, the fact is the dems haven't done shit yet always expect our vote, because well, we've shown them they can count on it.

There is no misunderstanding at all when it comes to specific tangibles that other groups have received and will receive. It clearly understood that they demand and get them while at the same time expecting us not to demand specific. All the while having the help of some of our own ppl in doing so.

Other groups get theirs and make sure to cut us out, like the cherokee nation that kicked out all the black ppl when the money came through. So you the smart, logical thing to do is to get on code and demand specifics for us and fuck the other so called minority groups that consistently use our numbers and voice for their advancement.

Alternatives and strategies have been stated in this thread and many other, yall just ignore them because they don't align with your thinking. But yall have no problem continuing to do the same thing that's produced no significant benefit. You argue about no proposed alternatives yet you reject them when they're presented.
 
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