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Who had the best Movement in Hip Hop? Pt. 1

Who had the best Movement in Hip Hop?

  • Run DMC/ Def Jam

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • NWA/ Gangsta Rap

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Public Enemy/ Street Political Rap

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Gold rope D Boy era

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • New Jack Swing

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • G- Funk

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • 90s West Coast

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • Memphis Mystic Styles/ Horrorcore 90s

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • UGK/ Too Short/8Ball Pimping era

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Mafioso Rap

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .
silverfoxx

silverfoxx

Bitch mob
Ran out of room for late 90s but I'll probably make a 4part to compare different eras after this one.

The Criteria:

Overall music catalog

Cultural impact

Defining moments

Long term influence

Classic music/moments
 
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Wu Tang deserves a mention. Those 7 albums between 36 Chambers and Wu Tang Forever are unlike anything Hip Hop has ever seen.

Also, the old school era where Hip Hop groups would perform around The Bronx and Harlem. Many of those shows are on tape, albeit with poor sound quality.


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A great thing about hip hop is there is ALOT of moments that were dope like the Timberland era, Neptune's era, Baggy pants, Cash Money, Wu Tang, ring tone era, neo soul, 2009 backpackers, ATL futuristic stupid fruity swag, Roc Dynasty, etc.

My goal was to make make part threads with different eras and make a final thread with all 4 highest rated movements to find the final winner. It's a tournament style the laziest way (my apologies) but I thought this will give all listeners a good chance to stake those favorite moments in hip hop.
 
The 5% Nation of Islam movement deserves a mention

Eric B & Rakim
Lakim Shabazz
King Sun
Poor Righteous Teachers
Brand Nubian
Digable Planets
Wu Tang Clan

All quoted lessons from The Supreme Wisdom.


That's actually what got me into Islam.
 
I actually hated the mafioso style.

When Biggie did it it was cool because he was the first one to do it, but then the next thing you knew every rapper was an Italian mobster or a Columbian drug lord.

Life After Death was dope, but when the Firm album came out 6 months later it just seemed pointless.
 
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Def Jam. And it's not close.
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There was a time (86-88) when Def Jam had LL Cool J, Public Enemy, The Beastie Boys and Slayer. The Beastie Boys and Slayer left and they picked up Slick Rick, Nice and Smooth and EPMD.

You'd have a difficult time naming a label that had that many classic groups with classic albums. Although 90s artists sold more because Hip Hop itself got more popular.
 
90s west coast had some shit man....The Chronic, All Eyes On me, Doggystyle, chronic 2001 came out in 1999 too right..pac was dropping shit pretty death row. So many artists
 
At it's best Public Enemy/NWA are one in the same. When its done correctly supreme knowledge is passed down from the Most High, to the prophets, to the boys on the block. Public Enemy and NWA represent different sides of the same coin and Ice Cube is the one that binds the two together.

Ppl want to paint NWA as if they were some kind of black eye to the game. They were the continuation of Public Enemy. It's like how people always wanted to pit the Black Panthers against Dr. King. The Panthers were just a continuation of Dr. King's movement. Huey Newton's whole plan was to take Dr. King's civil rights movement that grew out of the southern black church and bring that same energy to the young brothers on the block. He wanted to organize the hood soldiers and get them politically active in the same way that Dr. King organized and activated the black church. Huey's parents were from Louisiana and they went to Cali to escape Jim Crow. So Huey knew the struggle. It's just that when his time came to carry that struggle forward he did it from a different place, in a different time, with different ppl but he had the same goal. His focus wasn't the church elders of the southern Christian community. His focus was his homeboys that he saw getting harrassed and brutalized by the police everyday. He knew that young black men in Oakland, CA. represented a different kind of threat to the system than the older church going blacks in Louisiana. He knew that the two were both treated unjustly but the injustice was shown in a different type of way which required him to find a different type of solution. So his organization serviced a different community but ultimately had the same goal.

Matter of fact the work that Huey, Bobby and Bunchy put into oganizing the Panthers in LA was seen as such a threat that it eventually led to the death of Bunchy Carter and the downfall of the Black Panthers. You can draw a straight line from the death of Bunchy Carter, the downfall of the Panthers and the birth of the Crips/Bloods. Leaving the remnants of their organization in place without any leadership, let alone wiping out an entire generation of revolutionary leaders, created a power vacuum that was filed by criminals that led to the mayhem that became the Crips & Bloods and the decades of misguided warfare that followed.

NWA grew up in that leaderless era following the destruction of the Panthers as did all of the OGs of west coast hip hop. NYC created the art form and Public Enemy was one of the first to take the message of the NOI worldwide. But since NYC created hip-hop they had a headstart on creating and crafting the culture and the message. But while Chuck, Griff and Terminator X were putting it all together in NYC Cube and eventually Ren were in the NOI out in LA. They took the same message that PE had but they tailored it to their environment in the same way that Huey Newton took Dr. King's message and tailored it to his environment.

PE was the hip-hop version of Eijah Muhammad's soundtrack within the mosque. NWA was that same soundtrack but it was made for the brothers in the street who hadn't made it to the mosque yet. Matter of fact it was the for the brothers that Bunchy Carter got killed trying to organize and politicize. NWA had the same message but they were trying to deliver it to children who J. Edgar Hoover intentionally misled when he intentionally killed their leaders. PE's more refined message had to be adapted to reach an entire generation of kids that were purposely left behind and misguided. NWA did the same thing with the PE model that the Panthers did with the SCLC model. They had the same goal but they used different methods to get different people from a different place and a different time to achieve the same goals.

When done correctly Public Enemy/Street Political Rap and NWA/Gangsta Rap are one in the same. Look no further than Ice Cube's first album that was produced by the Bomb Squad and featured Public Enemy.
 
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