TI and Gucci Debate Over Who Made Trap Muzik

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Who Created Trap Muzik

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  1. Goldie

    Goldie Grateful Site Owner

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    When Gucci Mane took to Instagram on Saturday to proclaim himself "The Inventor of Trap Music", naturally there was quite a shock throughout the hip-hop community. Trap music is far and away the most popular and influential genre of rap music right now, and most of its biggest artists credit Gucci Mane for their success.

    With the Instagram post, Gucci stated that his 2005 album Trap House was the original trap rap album. However, T.I. wasn't going to take that statement lying down, and took to Instagram today to stake his own claim as the inventor of trap music.

    The photo, a screenshot of the Wikipedia entry for T.I.'s second album Trap Muzik, clearly shows its August 19, 2003, release date. So if we're talking purely about hard facts, then Tip has Gucci beat by two years. He captioned the post, "Ok,so.... AGAIN for the slow ones in the back... August 19th,2003 Birth of Trap Muzik & Only fools dispute facts!!! FOH wit that Christopher Columbus ass... “Look what I discovered,even though they was already here ass shit!!!!” WITCHO GOOD CAPPIN ASS ."

    T.I. makes some bold claims here, but he may have a point. However, music genres aren't set in stone. They take bits and pieces of inspiration from everywhere, so in most cases it's difficult to say who exactly invented a specific genre of music. Listening to some of the singles off Trap Muzik, only the faintest hints of what modern trap music has become are present. What's really important now isn't who invented the genre, but who is continuing it's legacy by evolving the genre, just like Gucci and T.I. both have.


     
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  2. Cain

    Cain Prominent Member

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    Have to agree with TI he was the first oeeospi heard call it trap music.
     
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    1/2 Dont drank out my drank, foo Billy Jack

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    valid argument on both sides

    Tip didnt coin "trap" but his album came out first so he has the title part won.....its all kinda songs on there tho....its a legit rap album

    Gucci on the other hand can make his claim based on his sound and thats all he does, its his thing it just fits him.....and thats the sound thats still being copied to this day

    Both pioneers of trap but sound nothing alike

    Honestly when somebody just randomly says trap music, I think Gucci *shrugs*
     
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    yes t.i had an album called called trap music but the damn sound and style and whole aura of it, is exemplified by Gucci, to me
     
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    T.I. is the originator and this is undisputed.
     
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    Poll's been added
     
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    TBH was sayosa the "trap" on their first album before both Gucci or TI. TI just made it a thing with his album and song
     
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    Didn’t know shit about a trap or ATL shit like that until TI. I will say this, Jeezy took that shit and went harder in that lane than TI did IMO. At one point everyone had them damn snowman long T’s in my hood.
     
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    SC_FWM Dear Tomorrow, I'm gonna fuck you up

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    I think the first person i heard use the term "trap" in reference to selling dope, is T.I....but i think Gucci sold more dope than T.I in real life though...
     
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    He ain't wrong. TIP brought it to mainstream with "Dope Boyz" in 2001, then the album/term "Trap Muzik" in '03. Jeezy and Shawty Redd gave it a signature sound and blew that shit up. Nigga had kids suspended from school wearing snowman t-shirts. lol! I just consider wop the A&R of it. *shrugs*.

    There were niggas before them talking about that lifestyle like UGK, Three-6, Master P, Ghetto Mafia even Outkast referred to the "Trap" couple times.
     
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  11. Allergens

    Allergens Me I'm Supa Fly

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    What is trap music exactly?
     
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    Big Boi - SpottieOttieDopalicious (1998)

    The United Parcel Service and the people at the post office /
    didn’t call you back because you had cloudy piss /
    So now you back at the trap just that, trapped /
    Go on and marinate on that for a minute.
     
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  13. Chicity

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    TI gave it a lane

    Jeezy gave it a sound

    Everyone else fell in line.

    TI the spearhead tho imo

    Truth be told I never heard of Gucci until the internet. No one I knew was playing Gucci back then now everyone wanna act like they been on. Samething happened with Wayne, UGK, Cole......
     
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    Allergens Me I'm Supa Fly

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    Like drill music in Chicago has a certain rhythm to the beat and a certain way you flow over the beat, that it's distinctive enough to give it a name.

    I'm not sure what's a trap beat and a trap flow? Is two chains flow "trap" flow?

    I ask cause I'm not really a fan of neither of TI or Gucci and I'm tryna understand the debate y'all are having
     
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    For me, trap music is a drug dealers lane over banging 808’s
     
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    Allergens Me I'm Supa Fly

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    I'm not trolling when I say this, honestly I'm not. What is 808's, could you please give me an example? Once again, I am not at all trolling.
     
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    yo bro you know them drums you usually hear in some down south trap shit? lol Those are 808s
     
  18. KINGEC

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    The drums (bass) that originated from the roland TR-808 drum machine but they're tweaked heavily nowaday.
     
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    Could you give me an example, I've always been a lyrics guy and just appreciated the beats as the assist to good rhymes and never learned the specifics like that.

    So when you say the drums in southern beats, ion understand. There's drums in all of hiphop, what's an 808 beat sound like?
     
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    BRIAN B. FUCK THE MAVEN!!! LONG LIVE THE I.C.

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