Jay-Z Partnering With The NFL For Social Justice

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DOS_patos

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I been hip to dude. He's basically the Trump of Brazil.

Dude was told top by his top environmental cabinet person who is a scientist that shit is fucked up in the rainforest with all cutting down of trees and etc that Bolsonaro is allowing to go on. Bolsonaro fired him and said he was lying.

I really don't get how people are willing to destroy the world for money not realizing that they ain't going to have a world to spend all that money in. Shit is fucking retarded.
i been saying all this.


when i stopped in brazil last year....it was looking good.
he made it clear that he dont give a shit about them trees or faveleas.

he already killing niggas up in them hoods.
but they mostly brown people
 

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the more you try to help the more your owen pwople break up down and come at you on fuck shit.

so JD actually went thru bullshit trying to do the same thing to the point he said fuck it?
@NeighborhoodNomad remember i said fuck it a while ago....we had this same type of convo and im no where near JD

and now Jay Z catching flack.


all these people are trying to give back and getting attacked for it and yet we wait on white people to fix shit.
but why.....who would want to help?

people always claim i say niggas aint shit......but look at how your own people attack those who are there to help them.

we need to move forward with black people ....not niggas.

niggas like @hellscar with no solutions but nigga more divisive than trump with his coon and sell out shit...name calling cuz he not me.
maybe try being in someone elses shoes before you throw shots.

i been where you were...you never been in my place.

maybe you making yourself look real bad right now
You generalize way too much when you talk about our own going in on some of the people trying to help.

Is some of the shit said about people trying to help bullshit, yes.

You also have to acknowledge just because you are trying to help doesn't mean there isn't a proper way to go about doing that. When people feel that a person has not gone about things the right way. They have every right to be skeptical, criticize and feel a way about it.

Now where both side go wrong at is not coming to an understanding with each side explaining where they are coming from so we can all get down to doing good business among our people.

I get the frustration folks looking at it like "muthafucka I'm here to help you I don't have to be here" but at the same time you have to realize how much bullshit and fake shit folks who in bad situations have to put up with and because of those situations a lot times they have thick walls built up and a lot of misplaced pride.

If you do the work you say you're doing I'm sure you will agree that once both sides come to an understanding those walls come down and that pride gets out of the way and shit usually works out well for both sides.
 
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You generalize way too much when you talk about our own going in on some of the people trying to help.

Is some of the shit said about people trying to help bullshit, yes.

You also have to acknowledge just because you are trying to help doesn't mean there isn't a proper way to go about doing that. When people feel that a person has not gone about things the right way. They have every right to be skeptical, criticize and feel a way about it.

Now where both side go wrong at is not coming to an understanding with each side explaining where they are coming from so we can all get down to doing good business among our people.

I get the frustration folks looking at it like "muthafucka I'm here to help you I don't have to be here" but at the same time you have to realize how much bullshit and fake shit folks who in bad situations have to put up with and because of those situations a lot times they have thick walls built up and a lot of misplaced pride.

If you do the work you say you're doing I'm sure you will agree that once both sides come to an understanding those walls come down and that pride gets out of the way and shit usually works out well for both sides.
yes....but thats th problem the walls dont come down.

its all about whos gonna humble themselves first.
i dont have a problem doing it time and time again....but it gets to a point where its like wtf.
because while all thei waiting and game playing and dancing around to see whos gonna give first ...time is wasted.

and my way is not the only way....i can admit that too.....but until others with other ways step up.....who can really complain?
just because im saying shit people dont like or the way they dont like......maybe it should be looked at like who speaks like me who aint stepping up?

no one way of communication works for all....but i also say we all have a place.
but no saying you...but often times people miss when i say that and want to focus on me saying step up.

i get it....that people get got all the time......all i can show is consistency.....but here the thing with that.....while i am not looking for a thank you for being their to help....im am not expecting to be shit on either. and i think thats where most people say fuck this and roll out.

if i listen to kids and i will listen to adult and there needs and plans.......but if you looking down on me cuz i got money and here to help like i aint shit or acting better than you......thats a problem that wont work for me.

too many black people dont trust other black people they dont deem like them.
but what is like them?

i mean i can really go in on this subject.

but for right now...i will admit.....i dont always come off in a nice way. but no one asks why or those eloquent people stay silent when they are needed (@Duwop)
 

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yes....but thats th problem the walls dont come down.

its all about whos gonna humble themselves first.
i dont have a problem doing it time and time again....but it gets to a point where its like wtf.
because while all thei waiting and game playing and dancing around to see whos gonna give first ...time is wasted.

and my way is not the only way....i can admit that too.....but until others with other ways step up.....who can really complain?
just because im saying shit people dont like or the way they dont like......maybe it should be looked at like who speaks like me who aint stepping up?

no one way of communication works for all....but i also say we all have a place.
but no saying you...but often times people miss when i say that and want to focus on me saying step up.

i get it....that people get got all the time......all i can show is consistency.....but here the thing with that.....while i am not looking for a thank you for being their to help....im am not expecting to be shit on either. and i think thats where most people say fuck this and roll out.

if i listen to kids and i will listen to adult and there needs and plans.......but if you looking down on me cuz i got money and here to help like i aint shit or acting better than you......thats a problem that wont work for me.

too many black people dont trust other black people they dont deem like them.
but what is like them?

i mean i can really go in on this subject.

but for right now...i will admit.....i dont always come off in a nice way. but no one asks why or those eloquent people stay silent when they are needed (@Duwop)
I hear you and you exactly right in everything ain't for everybody. We just have to rock with those who trying to rock with us. If you don't want my help or to hear what I have to say. Then step out of the room and let those who want to hear me and want my help do that.

I really don't why we as a people really don't take this factual statement more to heart and do it more often and with more force


That is not even saying to ignore or not reach out to the broken men but our main focus should be the children. The youth are the ones who have time on their side and will have to like in this world longer than us. So it is more paramount for us to get them right as soon as possible so they can start as early as possible moving in the right directions and seeing the changes they want to make in the world they have to live in.

LIke I support all mine in things they need and want to do. What I also do could be right or could be wrong but I give them even more of a push and support in the things that I see they are naturally good at than the things they want to do because its the hot thing at the moment or what their friends are doing.
 

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I hear you and you exactly right in everything ain't for everybody. We just have to rock with those who trying to rock with us. If you don't want my help or to hear what I have to say. Then step out of the room and let those who want to hear me and want my help do that.

I really don't why we as a people really don't take this factual statement more to heart and do it more often and with more force


That is not even saying to ignore or not reach out to the broken men but our main focus should be the children. The youth are the ones who have time on their side and will have to like in this world longer than us. So it is more paramount for us to get them right as soon as possible so they can start as early as possible moving in the right directions and seeing the changes they want to make in the world they have to live in.

LIke I support all mine in things they need and want to do. What I also do could be right or could be wrong but I give them even more of a push and support in the things that I see they are naturally good at than the things they want to do because its the hot thing at the moment or what their friends are doing.
the sad thing i see here..

is dudes know they are broken and dont mind allowing other to be broken or breaking others.
i cant sit by and be ok with this.
its like because my dad wasnt in my life i should ruin your life type thing.
thats a fucked up way of thinging but youd be surprised how many people think like this.

alot of people aint really trying to deal with their background and why they are how they are but rather ruin other people.

we as black people dont have time for this,.
so i tend to see it two ways.......either you helping/could potentially help or you just an anchor.

im not saying its right ...but my way is not the end all be all either.
 

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because you idea of every thing is simple.
5 grade level tamtrum response.


you taking this an internet jokes.

i been told you i do alot for real. like for real go to school and talk to kids when in charlotte to hear the kids side of things......and you want to clown.

this to me is very serious.
so unless you putting in work.......i have a very low tolerance and level of respect for any man not will to do his part.
this is not even about me....

its the kids that not being heard....

its kids out here who have no man at home helping or guiding them so they follow the local dumb ass but you talk trash?
i go into any hood and find corners full of niggas but these kids are telling me daddy never comes home?
but in your eyes im the problem?

thats why i give you shit.....because you have no clue.

i got plans to work with at least three people on here to help them get into real estate.....to become owner and investor. along with helping others with their businesses all while still doing my own shit....

but you want to call names?

the definition of a coon should be real specific and it dont sound like its me,
but lets stop joking about something so serious.
the more you try to help the more your owen pwople break up down and come at you on fuck shit.

so JD actually went thru bullshit trying to do the same thing to the point he said fuck it?
@NeighborhoodNomad remember i said fuck it a while ago....we had this same type of convo and im no where near JD

and now Jay Z catching flack.


all these people are trying to give back and getting attacked for it and yet we wait on white people to fix shit.
but why.....who would want to help?

people always claim i say niggas aint shit......but look at how your own people attack those who are there to help them.

we need to move forward with black people ....not niggas.

niggas like @hellscar with no solutions but nigga more divisive than trump with his coon and sell out shit...name calling cuz he not me.
maybe try being in someone elses shoes before you throw shots.

i been where you were...you never been in my place.

maybe you making yourself look real bad right now
So in other words a nigga you don’t know and that you feel does nothing for the community is able to troll you to rage because you take it serious. Then play victim over it. I f what you do is legit why concern yourself with the opinion of others? You just like to argue.
 

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If your shit is as legit as you say and I don’t think you’re lying but yet we do the same shit every post.

No I don’t think Jay Z is going to change nfl culture
 

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So in other words a nigga you don’t know and that you feel does nothing for the community is able to troll you to rage because you take it serious. Then play victim over it. I f what you do is legit why concern yourself with the opinion of others? You just like to argue.
as you see again ladies an gentlemen....

full of shit.


now its a troll job.

we troll in a serious thread......but i guess when nothing is important to you....neither are serious issues.
so why are we even discussing shit in the thread?

maybe jay is right ti just get the bag...niggas just want to troll all day and not bring solutions.




real convenient huh?
 

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as you see again ladies an gentlemen....

full of shit.


now its a troll job.

we troll in a serious thread......but i guess when nothing is important to you....neither are serious issues.
so why are we even discussing shit in the thread?

maybe jay is right ti just get the bag...niggas just want to troll all day and not bring solutions.




real convenient huh?
Woooooow
 
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the sad thing i see here..

is dudes know they are broken and dont mind allowing other to be broken or breaking others.
i cant sit by and be ok with this.
its like because my dad wasnt in my life i should ruin your life type thing.
thats a fucked up way of thinging but youd be surprised how many people think like this.

alot of people aint really trying to deal with their background and why they are how they are but rather ruin other people.

we as black people dont have time for this,.
so i tend to see it two ways.......either you helping/could potentially help or you just an anchor.

im not saying its right ...but my way is not the end all be all either.
Hurt people hurt people and a lot the times that shit is actually not on purpose. They just fucked up and know it but don't know the reasons their fucked up so they don't really see their actions as fucked up to really take all the accountability for those actions they need to. So when dealing with folks like that pointing it out they feel like you brow beating them and going to far.

Folks is lost out here and that is why the focus and majority of the dollars and efforts should be on the kids IMO. All this surface scratching that most are doing ain't changing a system that is working perfectly fine in accordance to racists and classist.

I don't blame or look at people funny for only knowing what they know by only going with what they see in their reality and not whats on tv.
 
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DMorgan

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For the record another thing that is way more important than this Jay z NFL shit is

Byron Allen Rips Comcast & Donald Trump’s DOJ For “Institutionalized Racism” As SCOTUS Showdown Looms

The newly declared emphasis by the DOJ now puts a more than 150-year law in a distinctly different light from how Allen’s lawyers have been reading it, as the Department’s filing openly says.

“Although the statute does not expressly describe the necessary causal link between a plaintiff ’s race and a defendant’s refusal to contract, the text is most naturally read to require but-for causation, and background common-law principles confirm that a but-for rule applies,” the incensory submission last week from Solicitor General Noel Francisco and Assistant AG Joseph Hunt argues (read it here).

“The court of appeals erred in concluding otherwise,” the DOJ brass state of lower court ruling in February in the huge money suit that Allen first filed in early 2015, along with a $10 billion suit against Charter Communications several months later. Comcast and Charter sought to have the matter dismissed. When they failed in that effort to end a case that they framed as a form of corporate expression, the MSNBC-owner took the battle to Chief Justice John Roberts and the Associate Justices.

The government detailed its POV by saying last week that “because ‘making’ a contract means entering a contract, a person does not enjoy ‘the same right’ guaranteed by Section 1981 if race prevents her from entering a contract that a similarly situated white person would have entered. And the inverse is also true.”

 

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Hurt people hurt people and a lot the times that shit is actually not on purpose. They just fucked up and know it but don't know the reasons their fucked up so they don't really see their actions as fucked up to really take all the accountability for those actions they need to. So when dealing with folks like that pointing it out they feel like you brow beating them and going to far.

Folks is lost out here and that is why the focus and majority of the dollars and efforts should be on the kids IMO. All this surface scratching that most are doing ain't changing a system that is working perfectly fine in accordance to racists and classist.

I don't blame or look at people funny for only knowing what they know by only going with what they see in their reality and not whats on tv.
see how easy that was vs saying you think you can talk down to me cuz you got money.
patience teaches......attacks bring more attacks.

props.

still gonna run me my fade tho
 

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This shit is embarrassing.

Anyone else can disagree on 99% of things but still work together.

Blacks will disagree on 1% and never work together.

It's fucking dumb. Yall want everyone to "black" the way you "black" and when they don't, suddenly you ready to snatch away their "blackness". Childish.
This is sig worthy

Sheeesh /thread
 

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Again people need to stop adopting derisive right wing language.....

and what Marcellus said the other day was treachery
If you can sit and talk with Jason Whitlock 5-6 days a week and haven't punched him the face multiple times that say what type of person you are.